Thank you Charlie DL3WDG, Bob KA1GT  and Mike W9MDB for looking into the code 
and putting your finger on it! 

I can confirm that all 3 radios IC-705, IC-910H and the Flex6700 behave the 
same now depending on the "VHF and sub mode features” setting. 

  VHF on = correct (fixed 1500 HZ) 

  VHF off = tone shift based on previous mode setting or wide graph click

And yes, the IC-705 profile was the only one that had it unchecked.

Great find! Mystery solved.

73, Andreas, N6NU


> On Aug 4, 2023, at 2:24 AM, Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel 
> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Andreas,
> It would be nice for you, if the echo mode had a ‘fail safe’ setting that 
> forces the transmission to 1500 Hz. The source code is available and you may 
> add that into the program. Otherwise the instructions are clear how to use 
> the echo mode.
> 73, Reino OH3mA 
>   <>
> From: Andreas Junge via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net] 
> Sent: torstai 3. elokuuta 2023 22.16
> To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
> <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>>
> Cc: Andreas Junge <andr...@n6nu.org <mailto:andr...@n6nu.org>>
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] #Echo Echo shifts TX frequency when clicking "Set 
> RX & TX offset" - should be disabled
>  
> Joe,
>  
> Yes, I have read it. I also read Bob's (KA1GT) article. Please have a look at 
> this short recorded screen session:
>  
> https://icecreamapps.com/v/fkkg3dt
>  
> Either right-clicking into the wide graph and setting the offset - which 
> should not work since it should be fixed to 1500- or by previously being in 
> Q65 with an offset will cause this. 
>  
> It follows the pattern of @0-500 offset will subtract 1500Hz, @501-1000 will 
> subtract 1000Hz, @1001-1500 will subtract 500Hz and so on until +1500Hz
>  
> I think this feature is used to keep the tones in the middle of the TX 
> passband, but it also requires a frequency shift of the generated tone which 
> does not happen because it's set to a fixed 1500Hz. 
>  
> In short, yes, there should not be a frequency shift on TX in the first place 
> and that is a bug IMHO.
>  
> I enabled logging for the rig transactions and the radio is indeed commanded 
> to go to the wrong offset on VFO B it should be 144065000.
>  
>           rig_set_split_freq called vfo=VFOB, curr_vfo=VFOA, 
> tx_freq=144064000 
>  
> It works fine when I right click on 1500Hz in the wide graphs or when 1500 
> was selected in the previous mode. 
>  
>  
>  73, Andreas, N6NU
>  
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 11:45 AM Joe Taylor via wsjt-devel 
> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> 
> wrote:
>> Hi Andreas,
>> 
>> Have you read the full-length paper about Echo mode in WSJT-X 2.6.0 and 
>> later? See item #34 in the list of WSJT-related references here: 
>> https://wsjt.sourceforge.io/refs.html .
>> 
>> As described there, in Echo mode the transmitted audio-frequency tone 
>> should always be 1500 Hz.
>> 
>>         -- 73, Joe, K1JT
>> 
>> On 8/2/2023 10:47 AM, Andreas Junge via wsjt-devel wrote:
>> > I posted my initial question on the groups.io <http://groups.io/> list as 
>> > well, but Charlie, DL3WDG suggested to post it here as well.
>> > 
>> > This is reproducible. In Echo Mode right click in the Wide Graph and 
>> > select “Set RX & TX Offset” it seems to change the TX.
>> > 
>> > Steps:
>> > - In the radio settings set "Split Mode" to Radio or Fake (No difference)
>> > - Select "Echo Mode"
>> > - Select 23 cm -> 1296.065 (Default)
>> > - Select Doppler Tracking mode to "Own Echo"
>> > - Display shows 1296.065 +/- My Doppler
>> > - Enable TX
>> > - The frequency will initially show 1296.06500 and the immediately change 
>> > to 1296.064500
>> > - On RX the frequency goes back to the correct 1296.06500 +/- Doppler
>> > - The Echoes will be shown at the @1000 offset and not @1500, which is 
>> > expected, but wrong.
>> > 
>> > After a few tries I found that selecting “Set RX & TX Offset” in the Wide 
>> > Graph
>> > 
>> > If I click on @1000 I get 64.5000, @1500 65.0000, @2000 65.5000
>> > 
>> > The audio should be fixed at @1500 and the Set RX & TX feature should be 
>> > ignored.
>> > 
>> > I think this if half of the feature that keeps the audio in the sweet spot 
>> > of the bandpass? However, it does not do the necessary 2nd step of 
>> > shifting the audio to adjust for it.
>> > 
>> > 73, Andreas, N6NU
>> > 
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