I also tried adding /opt/X11/bin/xterm and /bin/ls to the Full Disk Access list 
and that didn’t work either. Funny thing is, I can access almost every folder 
on the machine *except* Documents, Desktop, Downloads.  Seems odd that security 
would be tight around my own Documents, but the system itself including /usr 
and /opt is fair game.  On the other hand, cd seems to work fine. I can get to 
any directory within Documents. I can do mkdir inside Documents and then within 
the created directory I can do the usual operations. So for example, I can 
create a directory /Users/Myname/Documents/foo using mkdir. I can go to the 
finder and drag a file from anywhere in Documents and drop it in the new 
directory, and then I can view/edit/ls/whatever as long as I’m in that 
directory. So my guess is there’s something peculiar going on with just the 
Documents, Desktop, and Downloads directories and their subdirectories. Note 
that creating a new folder via the Finder does not work, the new directory has 
the same limitations as its parent.  For me, this may be the temporary fix. 
Create an “Uploads” folder using mkdir so I can transfer files between remote 
machine and local mac using scp and then work through the Finder locally.  Not 
ideal, but it could be worse.

Dave

On Oct 21, 2019, at 12:12 PM, Jonathan Prescott 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

As an addendum, using Eterm is not quite the same.  Just re-built Eterm, and 
tried it out.  Trying to `ls` Desktop, Documents, and Download, got the 
behavior mentioned in this thread.  Cd’ed to Desktop, then did `ls`, worked 
fine.  Cd`ed back to home and then did `ls` on Desktop, worked fine.  Same for 
the others.  Always worked on other directories from home such as Public, 
Sites, Pictures, Movies, and other directories I’ve created.

rxvt had no problem from the get go.

Looks like Catalina introduced something into the Posix sub-system that xterm, 
Eterm were using.  Probably a bug-fix that xterm and Eterm were taking 
advantage of.

Jonathan

On Oct 21, 2019, at 1:00 PM, Jonathan Prescott via X11-users 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I think the issue is xterm, not XQuartz.app or X11.app.  I got rid of my 
XQuartz installation, and the old X11.app installation, and re-built 
xorg-server from MacPorts from scratch on Catalina using Xcode 11.0 command 
line tools.  Xterm behaved as has been described in this thread, but, rxvt, 
eterm seem to be working fine, at least with respect to the behavior here.  
Running with SIP activated, stock Catalina install, X11 support installed in 
/opt.

Jonathan

On Oct 21, 2019, at 12:16 PM, David L Chopp via X11-users 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I tried reinstalling XQuartz, but no improvement. I don’t particularly want to 
run with SIP completely off, but maybe I’ll have to until this is resolved. 
I’ll wait until it’s a big problem. What I don’t understand is why ls works in 
my home directory, but not any of the subdirectories.

Dave

On Oct 18, 2019, at 1:45 AM, Tom Lane 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

David L Chopp via X11-users 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> writes:
I upgraded to Catalina and now I’m getting “Operation not permitted” when doing 
a simple “ls” command in my Desktop directory. Oddly enough, “ls" works fine in 
my home directory, just not any directories below that. I understand this is a 
casualty of the new SIP settings. I tried giving XQuartz full disk access in 
the privacy settings, but that didn’t help. Any ideas?

Have you tried re-installing XQuartz?  That's my go-to solution for
permissions issues, and I typically find that I have to do it after
any major OS upgrade.

FWIW, I've had no problems with XQuartz under Catalina, except for
having to do the aforementioned reinstall.  But I run with SIP off
(for reasons unrelated to X11), so maybe that's not a relevant
data point for you.

regards, tom lane

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