>> 2) Even when up, the drawing/rendering speed makes all X11 apps unusably >> slow. XQuartz from www.quartz.org <http://www.quartz.org/> was already extremely slow as compared to X11 on Linux or Windows. On 02 Feb 2017 Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia wrote: > By oct 21 2016 I asked on <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> a question about slow dialogues with > OpenMotif and XQuartz (much slower than with Linux). Is this a known bug ? > Shall I post again ? >> There is a known issue there, I believe with Yosemite and newer versions of >> macOS (maybe Mavericks+, maybe ElCap+, I forget exactly). The issue is >> below us in CoreGraphics and won't really be fixed on Apple's side as doing >> so would fix this case but cause bad performance penalties for every single >> other case out there. The real solution is to get XQuartz off of libXplugin >> and start using more modern macOS APIs (eg: finishing up libxcwm), but >> there's not really anyone actively working on that right now. > If you're interested in working on the replacement, I can point you in the > right direction. It's maybe 60% done ... all by a group of college seniors > at PSU.
When you speak of a MacPort version of X11, is it this one <https://www.x.org/wiki/ <https://www.x.org/wiki/>> ? I am new at MacPorts and I am not sure I understand how to use it. port info xorg-apps If I install this port, does it gives a X11.app similar to Quartz.app ? Shall I activate it through a Terminal command ? "Description: This package builds all of the x.org <http://x.org/> app packages.” but this does not say where they are installed and how to use them. I think that Apple should support XQuartz and developers should complain about it. Happy new year Alain > On 4 Jan 2020, at 10:21, Ken Preslan via X11-users <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Try the xorg-server-1.18 MacPort instead of the default xorg-server port. > There was a speed regression from 1.18 to 1.20. It's still not nearly > as fast as XQuartz was before Yosemite, though. > > At times, I wonder how hard it would be to change MacPorts' "vnc" port to > start compiling the VNC/X11 server. (Right now it only compiles the > client.) If that could be made to work, you could use a native MacOS > VNC client to connect to it. You'd have something that would run X11 > apps on the Mac which would be lighter weight than a VM and much faster > than XQuartz. You'd think that the work involved would be much smaller > than the "XtoQ in libxcwm" fix to XQuartz. > > I've never gotten around to trying it though. > > > On Sat, Jan 04, 2020 at 08:34:32AM +0000, Gunning, James (Energy, Clayton > North) via X11-users wrote: >> Hi All, >> I'm running Xquartz from the Macports build on High Sierra. >> Lots of things don't really work well >> 1) I have to run /opt/local/bin/Xquartz manually from a terminal, then >> start quartz-wm from the >> xterm it fires up. The Applications/Macports/X11.app just bounced endlessly. >> 2) Even when up, the drawing/rendering speed makes all X11 apps unusably >> slow. >> See https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/issues/188 >> <https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/issues/188> >> Since X11 is my workhorse, this makes the whole OSX+X11 platform experience >> rather >> unworkable for me. I've taken to running linux via a VM on OSX - at least >> the X11 works well, but it's a heavyweight solution. >> It seems to me that without a fix this disqualifies OSX as a platform for >> people who depend on the huge legacy set of X11 codes. >> >> Are other people as plagued by these issues as well. Is there any hope of >> remediation for Xquartz >> or substitute/workaround people know of? >> >> Best wishes >> James. >> ————————————— Dr. Alain Filhol (Computer scientist) Institut Laue-Langevin EPN Campus, CS 20156, 71 ave des Martyrs, F-38042 Grenoble cedex 9 <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Office: ILL19-206 Tel:+33 4.76.20.71.56, Fax: +33 4.76.20.76.48
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