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X.Org, the free implementation of the X11 windowing system will soon enter "maintenance mode". Driven by Red Hat, the Gnome desktop environment ditched X.Org in favor of Wayland, which is set to become the primary display server for GNU / Linux distributions. "Once we're done," says director of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) Desktop, "we plan to put X.Org into maintenance mode soon enough." This decision will affect macOS, which supports X.Org through the XQuartz project. This framework contributed to the success of Mac OS X: by making the link between X11 and Quartz, it also made the link between the open source world and that of Apple, and established Mac OS X against such a powerful UNIX system. than familiar. Many scientific applications, the Gimp editor, or the Wine compatibility layer, used XQuartz to run on Mac. >From Mac OS X Jaguar to Mac OS X Tiger, XQuartz used the free XFree86 >implementation, before switching to X.Org in Mac OS X Leopard. From OS X >Mountain Lion, however, XQuartz is no longer integrated into the system, but >must now be downloaded separately. If it is still maintained, it is based on >old technologies that are expected to disappear more or less quickly, and does >not support Retina displays. "X.Org is mainly maintained by [Red Hat]," says Christian Schaller, "It is unlikely that a major new version will be released once we are no longer paying attention. ". "We will keep an eye on it [...] at least until the end of RHEL 8's life [Editor's note: in 2029]," added the director of RHEL Desktop, while inviting GNU / Linux developers to switch to Wayland. What will it change on Mac? Probably not much. A few apps still request XQuartz, but Gimp and Wine have abandoned it for years. By abandoning X11 and XQuartz to better focus on its own technologies, Apple has made it easier to adapt. Unless there is a surprise, XQuartz should bow out at the same time as X.Org. James Gunning CSIRO Clayton, Vic., Australia ________________________________ From: X11-users <x11-users-bounces+james.gunning=csiro...@lists.apple.com> on behalf of Mick Mueck via X11-users <x11-users@lists.apple.com> Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:01 PM To: fil...@ill.fr <fil...@ill.fr> Cc: X11-users@lists.apple.com <X11-users@lists.apple.com> Subject: Re: Xquartz (non-) usability. Drawing speed. Startup etc G'Day Alain, Is there an English version of that website? I've just assumed for years now that X11 is either effectively abandoned or on below-minimum life support. So sad... Regards, Mick On 2020.0104, at 19:40, Filhol Alain via X11-users <x11-users@lists.apple.com<mailto:x11-users@lists.apple.com>> wrote: I thought it might be a good time to ask whether there will ever be an update for XQuartz? (I really hope so!) Here the answer: <https://www.macg.co/macos/2019/07/xorg-bientot-abandonne-et-avec-lui-x11-sur-mac-106945> Alain On 5 Jan 2020, at 00:30, Ward, Mark Daniel via X11-users <x11-users@lists.apple.com<mailto:x11-users@lists.apple.com>> wrote: I use XQuartz 2.7.11 daily too, now with Catalina... but I worry that it hasn't been updated since 2016. Since there has been a flurry of emails on this email list in the last few days, I thought it might be a good time to ask whether there will ever be an update for XQuartz? (I really hope so!) Warmest regards, Mark Daniel Ward, Ph.D. Director of The Data Mine Purdue University 1301 Third Street West Lafayette, IN 47906-4206 datam...@purdue.edu<mailto:datam...@purdue.edu> phone: (765) 496-9563 Professor of Statistics and (by courtesy) of Mathematics Purdue University 150 North University Street West Lafayette, IN 47907-2067 m...@purdue.edu<mailto:m...@purdue.edu> phone: (765) 496-9563 On 1/4/20 4:51 PM, Tom Lane via X11-users wrote: JF Mezei via X11-users <x11-users@lists.apple.com> writes: I am running the "Apple suppoted" older version on High Sierrs XQuartz 2.7.11 (xorg-server 1.18.4) Yeah, that one still works pretty well for me on Catalina. I am using a slightly modified X11 server with it too, to fix the focus problems that were such a hassle a few years ago. Beyond having to reinstall that stuff after any OS upgrade, it hasn't broken yet. Apart from a few hiccups here and there, it works. For instance, after I turn the TV on or off and the Mac insists on flashing the screens multiple times, the Xterm windows always end up on top. Yeah, I do notice the X11 windows forcing themselves to front in certain circumstances, but it's not been a huge problem for me. Lots of things don't really work well 1) I have to run /opt/local/bin/Xquartz manually from a terminal, then start quartz-wm from the xterm it fires up. Hm, nope, clicking the XQuartz dock icon works fine for me. regards, tom lane _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. 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