Just to confirm that I agree the default shouldn't be there (and removing
it will make reviewing a tiny bio easier for Rintze and me. Thanks!

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On Sep 5, 2016 6:18 AM, <fo...@boss-reus.nl> wrote:

>
> CiteProc.NET also uses the default value of 1, probably because of the
> test at hand. I'll remove the default value too.
>
> Fouke
>
>
> Frank Bennett schreef op 2016-09-05 11:16:
> > Sylvester,
> >
> > Great. I've removed the constraint in the current processor release,
> > but it might be restored after discussion. From a quick check of the
> > repo, it looks like five styles rely on the default value. If that's
> > roughly representative of styles in the wild, the impact will be
> > small, but some people might be bitten.
> >
> > Two additional styles use an extremely high value for et-al-min,
> > presumably with the intention of listing all authors; those would not
> > be (much) affected.
> >
> > Curious to hear the views of @adam42smith and @rmzelle on the issue.
> >
> > Here is the list of affected styles:
> >
> > harvard-the-university-of-melbourne
> > ithaque
> > le-tapuscrit-note
> > philosophiques
> > geochimica-et-cosmochimica-acta (et-al-min="1000")
> > harvard-oxford-brookes-university-faculty-of-health-and-life-sciences
> > (et-al-min="100")
> > universite-libre-de-bruxelles-histoire
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Sylvester Keil <sylves...@keil.or.at>
> > wrote:
> >> Hi Frank,
> >>
> >> Just to let you know, the test in question passes in citeproc-ruby
> >> too.
> >> After some digging I found the commit that sets the default to 1 to
> >> refer to this being citeproc-js' default value specifically (likely
> >> inferred from the test at hand). If you remove the default value, I'll
> >> also remove it from citeproc-ruby.
> >>
> >> Sylvester
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 2016-09-04 at 14:51 +0900, Frank Bennett wrote:
> >>> This weekend, I'm overhauling some of the names code in citeproc-js,
> >>> to fix some long-standing bugs in attribute inheritance. One of the
> >>> test failures doesn't actually look like a failure, and I'd like to
> >>> confirm that I'm not misreading the spec.
> >>>
> >>> The test is this one:
> >>>
> >>>     https://github.com/citation-style-language/test-suite/blob/master
> >>> /processor-
> >>> tests/humans/nameattr_EtAlUseFirstOnCitationInBibliography.txt
> >>>
> >>> In the fixture, a value for et-al-min is set on separate cs:name
> >>> nodes
> >>> inside cs:citation and cs:bibliography, and a value of 2 for
> >>> et-al-use-first is set on the cs:citation node. The test renders the
> >>> bibliography.
> >>>
> >>> The bibliography comes out with all three names given in the input.
> >>> The fixture RESULT has one name, truncated by et al.
> >>>
> >>> I don't see anything in the spec about defaulting to a value of 1 for
> >>> et-al-use-first, and it says that "[u]se of these two attributes
> >>> enables et-al abbreviation." Since the test provides a value for only
> >>> one of the attributes inside cs:bibliography, it sounds like listing
> >>> all three names there is the right thing to do (and the original
> >>> RESULT string was wrong).
> >>>
> >>> So ... should I amend the test there?
> >>>
> >>> Frank
> >>>
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