Jarros, I know you haven't been following the whole thread but Jonathan's
problem (which this discussion originated from) is that somehow his
installation is still using the /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/ files despite being
up to date with genesis. I saw a response on the list from you to someone
else about a similar problem in November 2013:

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=31683484
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=31686689

Although I am not experiencing the same problem I too would be interested
in the solution. It has always been challenging for me to understand the
xCAT PXE deployment process, which is why I have 5-10 pages of self-written
documentation and debugging info in a Google Doc about it. He posted
his dhcpd.conf
in his latest email. Any thoughts?

-Josh


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Jarrod B Johnson <jbjoh...@us.ibm.com>wrote:

> 1) If running 2.8, go ahead and delete nbroot-core.  genesis is far more
> maintainable and easier to muck with on the end point (e.g. having full
> fledged glibc)
> 2) The greatest common denominator remains switch based.  It's the only
> frequently instrumented topology cue that is pretty universal.  For bladed
> solutions there is potential for the chassis manager to be a good topology
> cue.  I am curious what goes awry with switch based discovery.  Without a
> topology cue, then the choices are sequential discovery (which I frankly
> haven't used myself) or using/scripting nodediscoverls/nodediscoverdef.  I
> personally think the latter is actually better and can be trivially made
> into a 'sequential' discovery using straightforward scripting..
>
> 3) Tom Alandt is the best person to discuss what can/can't be done by IBM
> mfg.  On the other hand, we *could* take some measures to make you
> impervious to the conflict.  The 'lsslp --flexdiscover' for its respective
> bits is impervious to IP conflict issues and will automatically fix it.
>  It's not a huge stretch to make that pan out for rackmount systems (though
> currently it's hard to pull off without *some* topology cue).
> [image: Inactive hide details for David D Johnson ---01/22/2014 08:11:53
> AM---I've been lurking on this discussion, and just checked to]David D
> Johnson ---01/22/2014 08:11:53 AM---I've been lurking on this discussion,
> and just checked to see what we've got -- nbroot or genesis --
>
> From: David D Johnson <david_john...@brown.edu>
> To: xCAT Users Mailing list <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Date: 01/22/2014 08:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [xcat-user] Frustrating time with sequential node discovery
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> I've been lurking on this discussion, and just checked to see what we've
> got -- nbroot or genesis -- and we have both of them.
>
> I had given up on node discovery years ago, we originally used the switch
> port numbers and forwarding tables to assign node names.  Now I use ASU to
> collect the macs, and populate the mac table with a bit of grep and awk.
>  But last week we powered on a rack of 20 non-ibm nodes, and I was wishing
> we had something easier since ASU didn't work for them.
>
> So I have two questions --
> 1) Can I safely delete the xCAT-nbroot-core* RPMS ?
> 2) What is the current best practice method?  What about for non-ibm
> hardware?
>
> No, three questions
> 3) How do you get IBM manufacturing to use a specific different 172.29.X
> for each rack they build for you?
> We've had three racks arrive in different months all with 172.29.101
> addresses for the IMM, and I have to spend 5-10 minutes reprogramming each
> one.  I can't put them on the same network until the conflicts are gone.
>
> What's hard for me is that we get new nodes only a couple times a year,
> and I forget everything in between.
>
> Thanks,
>  -- ddj
>
> On Jan 22, 2014, at 7:12 AM, Lissa Valletta 
> <*lis...@us.ibm.com*<lis...@us.ibm.com>>
> wrote:
>
>
>    xCAT-nbroot-core*   was replaced by  xCAT-genesis-* in xCAT 2.8.
>
>    Lissa K. Valletta
>    8-3/B10
>    Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
>    (tie 293) 433-3102
>
>
>
>    <graycol.gif>Xiao Peng Wang ---01/22/2014 02:58:13 AM---Why do you say
>    that you need nbk.x86_64? Is this file listed in the
>    </tftpboot/xcat/xnba/nets/>?
>
>    From: Xiao Peng Wang <*w...@cn.ibm.com* <w...@cn.ibm.com>>
>    To: xCAT Users Mailing list 
> <*xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net*<xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net>>,
>
>    Cc: xCAT Users Mailing list 
> <*xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net*<xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
>    >
>    Date: 01/22/2014 02:58 AM
>    Subject: Re: [xcat-user] Frustrating time with sequential node
>    discovery
>
>    ------------------------------
>
>
>
>    Why do you say that you need nbk.x86_64? Is this file listed in the
>    </tftpboot/xcat/xnba/nets/>?
>
>    With the latest xCAT build, it needs
>    /tftpboot/xcat/genesis.kernel.x86_64 instead of nbk.*
>
>    Thanks
>    Best Regards
>    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>    Wang Xiaopeng (王晓朋)
>    IBM China System Technology Laboratory
>    Tel: 86-10-82453455
>    Email: *w...@cn.ibm.com* <w...@cn.ibm.com>
>    Address: 28,ZhongGuanCun Software Park,No.8 Dong Bei Wang West Road,
>    Haidian District Beijing P.R.China 100193
>
>    <graycol.gif>Jonathan Mills ---2014/01/22 14:10:32---It would seem to
>    me that what I am missing is the whole of the  xCAT-nbroot
>    infrastructure...because
>
>    From: Jonathan Mills <*jonmi...@renci.org* <jonmi...@renci.org>>
>    To: xCAT Users Mailing list 
> <*xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net*<xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net>>,
>
>    Date: 2014/01/22 14:10
>    Subject: Re: [xcat-user] Frustrating time with sequential node
>    discovery
>    ------------------------------
>
>
>
>    It would seem to me that what I am missing is the whole of the
>    xCAT-nbroot infrastructure...because it isn't part of xcat-core, nor
>    xcat-dep.  So I didn't grab it.  But it just so happens...you need it.
>
>    The file
>
>    /tftpboot/xcat/nbk.x86_64
>
>    is provided by the RPM xCAT-nbkernel-x86_64.  Which is missing from my
>    yum repo mirrior, and from my hosts.
>
>
>    Anything else I'm missing?  Hopefully if I grab correct copies of
>    xCAT-nbkernel and xCAT-nbroot (or xCAT-nbroot2?) then node discovery
>    will actually work.
>
>    On 1/22/14, 12:08 AM, Xiao Peng Wang wrote:
>    > Both Josh and Russell are correct.
>    >
>    > xNBA is a customized pxe and genesis is a xCAT customized diskless
>    linux
>    > system to run discovery and other tasks like 'bmcsetup'. It does not
>    > need the /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/.* to load the genesis.
>    >
>    > For discovery, if a node is not defined in xCAT, the dhcp
>    configuration
>    > in the /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf or /etc/dhcpd.conf is used to reply the
>    dhcp
>    > request from not-discovered node.
>    >
>    > In your dhcpd.conf, it should have the following part for your
>    > deployment network. If not, run 'makedhcp -n' to recreate your
>    dhcpd.conf.
>    >      if option user-class-identifier = "xNBA" and option
>    > client-architecture = 00:00 { #x86, xCAT Network Boot Agent
>    >         always-broadcast on;
>    >         filename = "
>    
> *http://10.1.0.207/tftpboot/xcat/xnba/nets/10.1.0.0_16*<http://10.1.0.207/tftpboot/xcat/xnba/nets/10.1.0.0_16>
>    ";
>    >      } else if option user-class-identifier = "xNBA" and option
>    > client-architecture = 00:09 { #x86, xCAT Network Boot Agent
>    >         filename =
>    > 
> "*http://10.1.0.207/tftpboot/xcat/xnba/nets/10.1.0.0_16.uefi*<http://10.1.0.207/tftpboot/xcat/xnba/nets/10.1.0.0_16.uefi>
>    ";
>    >      } else if option client-architecture = 00:00  { #x86
>    >        filename "xcat/xnba.kpxe";
>    >      } else if option vendor-class-identifier = "Etherboot-5.4"  {
>    #x86
>    >        filename "xcat/xnba.kpxe";
>    >      } else if option client-architecture = 00:07 { #x86_64 uefi
>    >         filename "xcat/xnba.efi";
>    >      } else if option client-architecture = 00:09 { #x86_64 uefi
>    > alternative id
>    >         filename "xcat/xnba.efi";
>    >      }
>    >
>    > During the boot process of a not-discovered node, dhcpd will tell the
>    > node to load xcat/xnba.kpxe first and then the configuration file
>    > http://<xcat mn>/tftpboot/xcat/xnba/nets/10.1.0.0_16. Then the xnba
>    will
>    > load the genesis.
>    >
>    > Take a look of the syslog to see whether the xnba was downloaded
>    > successfully from tftp server. And look into the httpd log to see
>    > whether the genesis has been downloaded successfully.
>    >
>    >
>    > Thanks
>    > Best Regards
>    >
>    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>    > Wang Xiaopeng (王晓朋)
>    > IBM China System Technology Laboratory
>    > Tel: 86-10-82453455
>    > Email: *w...@cn.ibm.com* <w...@cn.ibm.com>
>    > Address: 28,ZhongGuanCun Software Park,No.8 Dong Bei Wang West Road,
>    > Haidian District Beijing P.R.China 100193
>    >
>    > Inactive hide details for Josh Nielsen ---2014/01/22 05:56:00---Ah, I
>    > see what you are saying now. Well, I hope the thread I stJosh Nielsen
>    > ---2014/01/22 05:56:00---Ah, I see what you are saying now. Well, I
>    hope
>    > the thread I stumbled on that Jarrod replied to help
>    >
>    > From: Josh Nielsen <*jniel...@hudsonalpha.org*<jniel...@hudsonalpha.org>
>    >
>    > To: xCAT Users Mailing list 
> <*xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net*<xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
>    >,
>    > Date: 2014/01/22 05:56
>    > Subject: Re: [xcat-user] Frustrating time with sequential node
>    discovery
>    >
>    >
>    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    > Ah, I see what you are saying now. Well, I hope the thread I stumbled
>    > on that Jarrod replied to helps figure out why his configuration is
>    > looking to the outdated (according to what Jarrod said) configuration
>    > files in /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/. Looks like it is either
>    > /etc/dhcpd.conf or /var/lib/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases related in that case.
>    >
>    > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Russell Jones
>    > <*russell-l...@jonesmail.me* <russell-l...@jonesmail.me>> wrote:
>    >  > It *should* work with xNBA and Genesis - xNBA is the PXE image
>    that
>    >  > loads Genesis. :-)
>    >  >
>    >  > Genesis is the utility image that handles shell commands,
>    runimages, etc.
>    >  >
>    >  > Don't confuse NBFS with xNBA - NBFS is deprecated via Genesis.
>    xNBA is
>    >  > the gpxe image that loads Genesis or your normal OS image
>    depending on
>    >  > what you sent via nodeset. Genesis would not be able to load
>    without
>    >  > xNBA (or standard PXE), and neither would any netboot images.
>    >  >
>    >  > On 1/21/2014 3:33 PM, Josh Nielsen wrote:
>    >  >>   my case it still works with
>    >  >> both xnba and genesis because of the nature of PXE chainloading.
>    It
>    >  >> probably adds deployment time, but it actually works in such a
>    mixed
>    >  >> configuration.
>    >  >>
>    >  >> -Josh
>    >  >
>    >  >
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