On May 4, 2016, at 8:43 PM, Doug Hill wrote: > >> On May 4, 2016, at 5:30 PM, Quincey Morris >> <quinceymor...@rivergatesoftware.com> wrote: >> >> On May 4, 2016, at 17:06 , Roland King <r...@rols.org> wrote: >>> >>> Don’t use the app store for Xcode. >> >> I understand you’re going to be unforgiving after getting burned by the app >> store app, but I get Xcode that way pretty much all the time these days, >> without problems. The downsides to the store app: >> >> -1. It’s a really slow, really bad app. >> >> -2. It doesn’t reliably tell you when it’s downloading what you asked it to >> download. That leads to an evil cycle where you keep stopping an update that >> doesn’t seem to be progressing, thus preventing it from ever progressing to >> the end. >> >> The upsides to the store app: >> >> +1. It enables the download of delta updates. Xcode 7.3.1 was a <1 minute >> download with 7.3 installed. >> >> +2. The store download comes pre-gatekeepered. This saves up to 20 minutes >> in installation time, vs the DMG download. >> >> (Also, whichever way you download, moving the old Xcode to the trash instead >> of installing over the top of it seems to add another 20 minutes to the >> installation time. This may just be the Finder preflighting the trashing, >> not the installation process itself, but it’s another annoyance.) >> >> The key point is that there are valid reasons to use the store app for >> Xcode, if you can bear it. > > I think we can all agree that installing through the app store would be > desirable. However, the fact that it’s so flaky leads people to avoid it like > the plague. For example, this isn’t the first time updating Xcode through app > store has failed for me. Experience tells me this process is just not > reliable.
What I loathe about the app store is that it nukes the installer when it's done. When we're in a place with great bandwidth, even then, the whole install process takes too long because of the size of the thing. What I want when downloading something that is an installer is to route the installer into a folder called Installers, and if there is a zip file, then remove that and leave me with a fully functioning installer that I can keep or choose to get rid of it I want. It's really much easier to get the installable tools in house and then send them out to your team than have everyone mess with the crApp Store and end up with problems like this.
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