Hi John, Rob,

this just sounds like an idea from me. 

The drawback of the current xc thermal "optimizer" is the rotating
display of the polardiagram. The movement and the latency is just what
you not want. You can see if you are good centered, than the
polardiagram is round. But if it is not, you have to have a lot of
experience to pick up the right direction to shift your circle center.
It is hard to estimate the latency of the display and your real position
on the circle.

The dotted approach just picks a current height band and reminds you
with a static display where which updraft strength to find. Especially
for wide and/or weak thermals the graphical interface let your eye
find/integrate easily the right place to circle. The simple snail trail
does it more or less.

I could imagine a "dot" and "height band" tuned snail trail of our
thermal display. A tuned drift of the thermal snail trail is also to
consider, but that is kind of research, because there is no proven model
for it as we know already from Reichmann.

Helmut

Am Montag, den 23.05.2011, 20:12 +1000 schrieb John Wharington:
> Why do you think this better than what we have?
> 
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Rob Hazes <robha...@online.no>
> wrote:
>         Hi!
>         
>         As a paraglider pilot I have been using Aircotec's
>         TopNavigator for many
>         years. This instrument is in my opinion still far better than
>         other and
>         newer combined GPS / Variometers although it came on the
>         marked already in
>         1997. I now use XCSoar in addition since it displays airspace,
>         something the
>         TopNavigator can not.
>         
>         I suggest to look at the thermal assistant of this instrument,
>         and replace
>         XCSoars current assistant by something similar to Aircotecs.
>         
>         The thermal assistant on the instrument works like a dream. As
>         far as I can
>         observe the software does following:
>         1.measured wind speed and direction is calculated while
>         circling. (as XCSoar
>         does)
>         2.fat dots are plotted on the screen for each measurement with
>         strong lift,
>         thin dots for measurements with weak lift. (could be improved
>         using colors)
>         3.wind speed, wind direction, position, height, and lift are
>         stored for the
>         measurements in the current thermal, and are used to build a
>         3D model of the
>         thermal.
>         4.the instrument keeps track of the dots, compensated for
>         drift, using the
>         wind info for the specific height.
>         5.as far as I understand, the instruments also extrapolates to
>         predict the
>         position of the thermal both below the entry point and above
>         current height.
>         6.the dots are plotted on a hi-zoom thermalling screen, north
>         up, where the
>         pilot always is in center. An arrow, pointing from center
>         outwards
>         illustrates the pilots current heading.
>         
>         While I am thermalling I can always see on my screen where I
>         found the best
>         lift. I see a slice of the thermal as a cluster of dots, and
>         this informs me
>         on where the best area is (so far found by me). If I should
>         lose the thermal
>         it is easy to get back to the best area, no matter at which
>         height I return.
>         The instrument shows the slice for the current height.
>         
>         Best regards,
>         
>         Rob.
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         
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