My only comment is i was perfectly happy with the behaviour of final glide in 
5.2, everytime it predicted the final glides perfectly.

Storm in a teacup methinks!

Dave

> From: tangoei...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:11:09 -0500
> To: m...@duempel.org
> CC: xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] XCSoar 6.2.3 released
> 
> 
> On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Max Kellermann wrote:
> 
> > On 2011/11/21 23:40, Evan Ludeman <tangoei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Sorry John, no sale.  We need height relative to glide slope at a pilot
> >> selectable Mc setting for final glide.  If that's being eliminated in
> >> preference wind dependent height of climb required, that's a poor
> >> choice.
> > 
> > What XCSoar shows is not the height relative to the glide slope.
> > 
> > What XCSoar shows is how much you need to climb to reach your goal.
> > 
> > The height relative to the glide slope is a theoretical number that is
> > of no practical use for a glider, even if it might be appealing to
> > calculate it, and even if it gives you the illusion that it is useful.
> > 
> > Max
> > 
> 
> I disagree, rather strongly.
> 
> 30 miles out on final glide, 500' below glide slope, I am not looking for a 
> thermal to center and circle in, I am looking for enroute lift to get up to a 
> comfortable final glide.  The height below glide slope is preferable to 
> height required to climb (in circling).  I'm rather astonished to find out 
> about how XCS is doing these calculations, I didn't know this but in 
> retrospect it does explain (perhaps) some of the discrepancies I have noted 
> between XCS and my C-302/303.  As previously noted, I always go with the 
> 302/303 as primary reference for final glide.  
> 
> This whole conversation completely astonishes me.  I never suspected that 
> anyone doubted the utility of height relative to glide slope for final glide. 
>  
> 
> It appears to me that there are some who are out to put "all the brains in 
> the box".  That's an interesting intellectual and software engineering 
> challenge to be sure, but it's not what I am interested in.  I am solely 
> interested in aids to my situational awareness.  I find height relative to 
> glide slope to be such an aid.  Height required to climb given an assumed 
> thermal strength... not so much.
> 
> -Evan
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