Max, I am not sure why you say that XCSoar behaves like other flight computers 
and providing stable value. It doesn't. It assumes that I will stop to thermal 
since I use mc >0 below glide, which other computers don't. And as a result it 
produce very unstable value, unless you consider 5000 feet fluctuation on 
arrival altitude in couple of minutes a stable value. 

Can we all conclude this discussion that XCSoar needs an urgent fix to make the 
new solvent optional for the select few who prefer it, and use the standard 
solvent for the rest of us. I think it is quiet obvious that this is what most 
prefer. Otherwise we will go on and on with this.
Together with this fix we need the persistent polar degradation (to avoid 
having to use MC to degrade polar) and the option to decouple MC setting from 
302 so we can set them independently. These are all related issues. 

Thanks,

Ramy

On Nov 23, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Max Kellermann <m...@duempel.org> wrote:

> On 2011/11/23 09:34, Peter Cutting <peter.cutt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> My vote is for changing XCSOAR to behave more like other flight computers
>> when it comes to this issue. I want to know if I am above or below glide. I
>> want a stable value so that I can tell if things are getting better or
>> worse.
> 
> XCSoar does that already.  Anybody who thinks this is not the case has
> misunderstood this whole topic.
> 
>> I quite liked the glidebar diagrams that someone posted earlier
> 
> What XCSoar could use is a live diagram that explains a glide path
> calculation.  Our cross section view (in the analysis dialog) could
> use a rewrite.  We have been meaning to do that long ago, but it has
> been postponed over and over.
> 
> Max
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