Please allow me one last mail concerning the Final Glide issue.
I won't go into the details why the "classic" behaviour is of big
advantage to me and the many others who advocated for it on this list.
That has been done extensively now.
If you are one of the developers, first of all I would like to thank you
for your work!
And I would be happy if you would consider the following, when making
the decision to reimplement a switch to get back the classic behaviour
for the ones who want it, or if you are going to ignore the requests.
- There is a large group of users who want the classic way of displaying
Arrival Alt (about 50% of the people who wrote on this topic)
- These users are not dumb. They are experienced XC and competition
pilots. (so are the ones who like the new behaviour as well) After this
discussion they now understand why you implemented the new behaviour and
they understand the pure MC-Theory. However they still advocate strongly
to get back the old way of displaying final glide for a bunch of reasons.
- You may or may not think the reasons for their wish are valid. But
please don't think they just "did not understand" or they are just lazy
to learn something new. That is not the case. Please carefully reread
all the reasons brought forward if you really might think so.
- All other gliding computers (LX, Zander...) and gliding software
(SeeYou Winpilot StrePla) behaves the "classic" way for final glide
display. Which is not just one value of many, it is the heart of any
gliding calculator. Pilots are used to it and therefore the behaviour
they expect from xcs will be different. Which is a reason for users to
distrust xcs's calculations and use other software.
- There is no way to do a crosscheck between two systems if below GP
with MC>0 anymore.
- I understand that if you designed something like the new solver and
you put loads of work into it, the first reaction when constructive
critisicm arises at this very late point in time is that you will be
hesitant to change things that are obviously right in your perspective.
However I think a big advantage of opensource is that different views on
the same thing can be openly discussed and the users can give input
about the things that are really important to them.
- If you decide NOT to reimplement the classic display as an option what
do you want to achieve?
Reduce complexity *you think* is unnecessary?
Educate other pilots to see things "your way"?
- Just a final thought: Wouldn't it be possible to calculate a "Thermal
Gain Required"-Altitude with the resources of the old hardware gliding
calculators? (Geometric Postion, Polar, Wind, Thermalstrength(MC) )
Why has none of the numerous systemdesigners ever done so for the final
glide display? Don't you agree they are smart guys as well?
Maybe they had reasons... just thinking....
You made a lot of people happy creating and enhancing this software. If
the user could choose in which way final glide is displayed you would
make a lot of those people really happy ! =)
This is an important issue.
The decision lies in your hands !
Please don't decide too quickly.
Greets Henrik
Am 24.11.2011 09:44, schrieb Peter Cutting:
"Bellow glide based on your current MacCready" - Yes
I am not going to reduce my MC, as I can see good weather between me
and the finish. I will make up the missing altitude by flying through
the lift (hopefully without circling).
This is the normal way of doing things, and therefore what XCSoar
should support first and foremost
I dont use AutoMC for some reason. Dont know much about it. Only I
know what the weather looks like ahead so I like to stay in charge of
the MC setting.
Peter
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Scott Penrose <sco...@dd.com.au
<mailto:sco...@dd.com.au>> wrote:
On 23/11/2011, at 7:34 PM, Peter Cutting wrote:
. I often start a final glide "below glide" and "bump" up on the
way *without thermalling*.
This statement is really the key. You state you start below glide.
Bellow what glide? Bellow glide based on your current MacCready?
XCSoar already supports what you want by just using Auto MacCready
on Final Glide.
Scott
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