I'm with the same problem since 1.21 but, because we are a XMail for Windows 
user using Microsoft stuffs (os, dns, etc), maybe others simply ignore it 
(including Davide!)

Here I'm using ms smtp (aka cdonts) to delivery messages to hotmail.com and 
msn.com.
Without this "trick" messages to hotmail.com and msn.com can't be delivered 
and in the spool we can see:

<<
ErrCode   = -162
ErrString = End of socket stream data
SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = 
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed !
SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error"
SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com."
>>
<<
ErrCode   = -162
ErrString = End of socket stream data
SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = 
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed !
SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error"
SMTP-Server = "mx2.hotmail.com."
>>

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Arends" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 9:50 AM
Subject: [xmail] Re: messages to yahoo and or hotmail does not get delivered



Francis, this also true for me:

> Yes
> The problem is EXACTLY 'XMAIL comes back to the A record for obscure
> reasons (internal or due to bad dns responses ?) even if MX records
> exists for the target domains'.

I'm glad there *is* someone with the *same* problem as me.

It means the problem is reproducible - always good when you need to track
down a weird problem.

Rob: -)

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of CLEMENT Francis
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 5:34 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: [xmail] Re: messages to yahoo and or hotmail does not get delivered




> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Rob Arends [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Envoyé : jeudi 1 septembre 2005 01:53
> À : [email protected]
> Objet : [xmail] Re: messages to yahoo and or hotmail does not get
> delivered
>
>
>
> Francis,=20
>
> This is the exact error I have had before.  I have the same setup -
> your
> *whole* description below is *exactly* what I have.  I have had this =
> problem while on 1.15 & 1.17 also.  However at the time though, I did
> not know = why my emails were failing.

I don't remember exactly if we encourated the problem with 1.17 (seams not
in my mind) (but can be explained because we didn't had many traffic
directed to hotmail at 1.17 time)


> The only difference is that I have not had an issue with hotmail, =
> usually it is with some other domains.  Perhaps my users don't send to
> hotmail as = much.
> I have not had the time to debug it to an absolute end and offer
> proof, = and so the previous thread died.
>
> I have tracked it down to the fact that every domain that I have had
> problems with has had an A record for the domain & that A record =
> resolves to a different IP than that of the MX record.  This in itself
> is

True

> not a DNS
> problem (normal dns operation).  But I have found that clearing
> xmail's = dns cache & restarting xmail resolves the problem for a
> while.  IIRC just restarting xmail might be enough.

Yes
The problem is EXACTLY 'XMAIL comes back to the A record for obscur reasons
(internal or due to bad dns responses ?) even if MX records exists for the
target domains'.

>
> I actually used the SmartDNSHost only *after* I have troubles with MX
> & = A records, but while the problem *seems* to have reduced, it has
> not gone.

>
> It does seem to be a logic issue in xmail's mx resolving code, but I =
> have no proof.

In my current configuration, xmail 1.21 forwarding ALL traffic to a Symantec
SMTP AV Gateway USING the SAME Microsoft DNS SERVERS, then ALL TRAFFIC IS OK
(except usual errors, timeouts, ...) In another 'old' configuration, we used
a Microsoft (yes!) Iis SMTP server using the same dns sservers and all was
ok too !!


> I expect that an Ethereal trace before and after is the only thing
> that = can be done to prove it.
>

I have to get time to get them ...

> Hopefully this info will help someone that has the time & the symptoms
> = to get to the bottom of it.
>
> Rob :)
>


Francis
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