And just for the record:

[PeekTime] 1125619099 : Thu, 1 Sep 2005 18:58:19 -0500
<<
ErrCode   = -5
ErrString = Timeout error
SMAIL SMTP-Send FF = "intergraonline.com" SMTP = "smtp5.mnwebhost.net" From = 
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed !
SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error"
SMTP-Server = "intergraonline.com"

Again, "intergraonline.com" has an MX record: "ix2-mail-gw.new.net"

So why is XMail trying "intergraonline.com"??

--John

John Kielkopf wrote:

>Ok, it looks like we may be having this problem as well.
>
>Running 1.21 on linux.
>
>We're having trouble sending mail to "greenbaycc.org"
>
>"greenbaycc.org" has an MX record of "mail.greenbaycc.org", that points 
>to an A record of 67.39.138.28.
>
>There is no A record for "greenbaycc.org", however Xmail reports this:
>
>[PeekTime] 1125623599 : Thu, 1 Sep 2005 20:13:19 -0500
><<
>ErrCode   = -40
>ErrString = Invalid server address
>ErrInfo   = greenbaycc.org
>SMAIL SMTP-Send FF = "greenbaycc.org" SMTP = "smtp5.mnwebhost.net" From 
>= "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed !
>SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error"
>SMTP-Server = "greenbaycc.org"
>
>I verified that I could resolve and connect to port 25 on 
>mail.greenbaycc.org from our mail server immediately after receiving 
>this message, so I doubt Xmail should have had trouble connecting less 
>than one minute earlier (and all the other times it tried), had it been 
>able to resolve to "mail.greenbaycc.org" correctly.
>
>dnsreport also has no trouble:
>http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/mail.ch?domain=greenbaycc.org
>
>XMail doesn't seem to have a valid reason for using "greenbaycc.org", so 
>why is it?!
>
>Normally I write these 417 errors off as the receiving server being down 
>or a typo on the domain name, but now I'm not so sure they all fall into 
>this category.
>
>Davide, could you please double check this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>--John
>
>
>Rob Arends wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Francis, this also true for me:
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Yes
>>>The problem is EXACTLY 'XMAIL comes back to the A record for obscure 
>>>reasons (internal or due to bad dns responses ?) even if MX records 
>>>exists for the target domains'.
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>I'm glad there *is* someone with the *same* problem as me.
>>
>>It means the problem is reproducible - always good when you need to track
>>down a weird problem. 
>>
>>Rob: -)
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>Behalf Of CLEMENT Francis
>>Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 5:34 PM
>>To: '[email protected]'
>>Subject: [xmail] Re: messages to yahoo and or hotmail does not get delivered
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>-----Message d'origine-----
>>>De : Rob Arends [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Envoyé : jeudi 1 septembre 2005 01:53
>>>À : [email protected]
>>>Objet : [xmail] Re: messages to yahoo and or hotmail does not get 
>>>delivered
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Francis,=20
>>>
>>>This is the exact error I have had before.  I have the same setup - 
>>>your
>>>*whole* description below is *exactly* what I have.  I have had this = 
>>>problem while on 1.15 & 1.17 also.  However at the time though, I did 
>>>not know = why my emails were failing.
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>I don't remember exactly if we encourated the problem with 1.17 (seams not
>>in my mind) (but can be explained because we didn't had many traffic
>>directed to hotmail at 1.17 time)
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>The only difference is that I have not had an issue with hotmail, = 
>>>usually it is with some other domains.  Perhaps my users don't send to 
>>>hotmail as = much.
>>>I have not had the time to debug it to an absolute end and offer 
>>>proof, = and so the previous thread died.
>>>
>>>I have tracked it down to the fact that every domain that I have had 
>>>problems with has had an A record for the domain & that A record = 
>>>resolves to a different IP than that of the MX record.  This in itself 
>>>is
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>True
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>not a DNS
>>>problem (normal dns operation).  But I have found that clearing 
>>>xmail's = dns cache & restarting xmail resolves the problem for a 
>>>while.  IIRC just restarting xmail might be enough.
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Yes
>>The problem is EXACTLY 'XMAIL comes back to the A record for obscur reasons
>>(internal or due to bad dns responses ?) even if MX records exists for the
>>target domains'.
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I actually used the SmartDNSHost only *after* I have troubles with MX 
>>>& = A records, but while the problem *seems* to have reduced, it has 
>>>not gone.
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>It does seem to be a logic issue in xmail's mx resolving code, but I = 
>>>have no proof.
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>In my current configuration, xmail 1.21 forwarding ALL traffic to a Symantec
>>SMTP AV Gateway USING the SAME Microsoft DNS SERVERS, then ALL TRAFFIC IS OK
>>(except usual errors, timeouts, ...) In another 'old' configuration, we used
>>a Microsoft (yes!) Iis SMTP server using the same dns sservers and all was
>>ok too !!
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I expect that an Ethereal trace before and after is the only thing 
>>>that = can be done to prove it.
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>I have to get time to get them ...
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hopefully this info will help someone that has the time & the symptoms 
>>>= to get to the bottom of it.
>>>
>>>Rob :)
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Francis
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