Ok, it looks like we may be having this problem as well.

Running 1.21 on linux.

We're having trouble sending mail to "greenbaycc.org"

"greenbaycc.org" has an MX record of "mail.greenbaycc.org", that points 
to an A record of 67.39.138.28.

There is no A record for "greenbaycc.org", however Xmail reports this:

[PeekTime] 1125623599 : Thu, 1 Sep 2005 20:13:19 -0500
<<
ErrCode   = -40
ErrString = Invalid server address
ErrInfo   = greenbaycc.org
SMAIL SMTP-Send FF = "greenbaycc.org" SMTP = "smtp5.mnwebhost.net" From 
= "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed !
SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error"
SMTP-Server = "greenbaycc.org"

I verified that I could resolve and connect to port 25 on 
mail.greenbaycc.org from our mail server immediately after receiving 
this message, so I doubt Xmail should have had trouble connecting less 
than one minute earlier (and all the other times it tried), had it been 
able to resolve to "mail.greenbaycc.org" correctly.

dnsreport also has no trouble:
http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/mail.ch?domain=greenbaycc.org

XMail doesn't seem to have a valid reason for using "greenbaycc.org", so 
why is it?!

Normally I write these 417 errors off as the receiving server being down 
or a typo on the domain name, but now I'm not so sure they all fall into 
this category.

Davide, could you please double check this?

Thanks,

--John


Rob Arends wrote:

>Francis, this also true for me:
>
>  
>
>>Yes
>>The problem is EXACTLY 'XMAIL comes back to the A record for obscure 
>>reasons (internal or due to bad dns responses ?) even if MX records 
>>exists for the target domains'.
>>    
>>
>
>I'm glad there *is* someone with the *same* problem as me.
>
>It means the problem is reproducible - always good when you need to track
>down a weird problem. 
>
>Rob: -)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of CLEMENT Francis
>Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 5:34 PM
>To: '[email protected]'
>Subject: [xmail] Re: messages to yahoo and or hotmail does not get delivered
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>>-----Message d'origine-----
>>De : Rob Arends [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Envoyé : jeudi 1 septembre 2005 01:53
>>À : [email protected]
>>Objet : [xmail] Re: messages to yahoo and or hotmail does not get 
>>delivered
>>
>>
>>
>>Francis,=20
>>
>>This is the exact error I have had before.  I have the same setup - 
>>your
>>*whole* description below is *exactly* what I have.  I have had this = 
>>problem while on 1.15 & 1.17 also.  However at the time though, I did 
>>not know = why my emails were failing.
>>    
>>
>
>I don't remember exactly if we encourated the problem with 1.17 (seams not
>in my mind) (but can be explained because we didn't had many traffic
>directed to hotmail at 1.17 time)
>
>
>  
>
>>The only difference is that I have not had an issue with hotmail, = 
>>usually it is with some other domains.  Perhaps my users don't send to 
>>hotmail as = much.
>>I have not had the time to debug it to an absolute end and offer 
>>proof, = and so the previous thread died.
>>
>>I have tracked it down to the fact that every domain that I have had 
>>problems with has had an A record for the domain & that A record = 
>>resolves to a different IP than that of the MX record.  This in itself 
>>is
>>    
>>
>
>True
>
>  
>
>>not a DNS
>>problem (normal dns operation).  But I have found that clearing 
>>xmail's = dns cache & restarting xmail resolves the problem for a 
>>while.  IIRC just restarting xmail might be enough.
>>    
>>
>
>Yes
>The problem is EXACTLY 'XMAIL comes back to the A record for obscur reasons
>(internal or due to bad dns responses ?) even if MX records exists for the
>target domains'.
>
>  
>
>>I actually used the SmartDNSHost only *after* I have troubles with MX 
>>& = A records, but while the problem *seems* to have reduced, it has 
>>not gone.
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>It does seem to be a logic issue in xmail's mx resolving code, but I = 
>>have no proof.
>>    
>>
>
>In my current configuration, xmail 1.21 forwarding ALL traffic to a Symantec
>SMTP AV Gateway USING the SAME Microsoft DNS SERVERS, then ALL TRAFFIC IS OK
>(except usual errors, timeouts, ...) In another 'old' configuration, we used
>a Microsoft (yes!) Iis SMTP server using the same dns sservers and all was
>ok too !!
>
>
>  
>
>>I expect that an Ethereal trace before and after is the only thing 
>>that = can be done to prove it.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>I have to get time to get them ...
>
>  
>
>>Hopefully this info will help someone that has the time & the symptoms 
>>= to get to the bottom of it.
>>
>>Rob :)
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>Francis
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