First thing to find out is if your ISP will allow you to relay for free.
Second thing is, if you use SPF records, then include your ISP outgoing IP
address(es) in your SPF record.

Then if at least #1, then relay via ISP.
Those MTAs that deny mail from dynamic IPs, must not deny from the MTAs of
that ISP.

Rob :-)
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Edmonds, J.B.
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:52 PM
To: xmail@xmailserver.org
Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS

That's exactly my concern.  I could be paying 3 cents per recipient to
have the mail relayed, just to have it blocked anyway since the
recipient's server does not allow relayed traffic from any source.=20

I am looking for a better solution.

JB Edmonds

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of CLEMENT Francis
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:39 AM
To: 'xmail@xmailserver.org'
Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS

Just notice that using a 'external' relay server (even if it is your =3D
own
isp) can also be denies at final destination servers if the external =3D
relay server is not declared in some way to be 'legitimate' to send
mails of behalf of the sending domain (I have in mind spf for example).
So the relay provider or you will (on dns with spf record for spf =3D
example)
have to do some work ...
If at this time spf and other 'sender server checks' algo are not =3D
largely used, they will become.

Francis


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>De : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Ivo Smits
>Envoy=3DE9 : jeudi 26 avril 2007 15:49
>=3DC0 : xmail@xmailserver.org
>Objet : [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS
>
>
>Rollernet (http://www.rollernet.us/) can provide you with=3D20 outgoing =

>SMTP=3D20 relay services (not free). Your ISP may also provide you=20
>with=3D20 some (usually=3D20
>free) email relay. It may even be possible (I'm not sure about=3D20
>this) to get=3D20
>some static IP address, over a VPN connection.
>
>Ivo
>
>----- Original Message -----=3D20
>From: "Robert Schiffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <xmail@xmailserver.org>
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:24 PM
>Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS
>
>
>> If you are on Verizon DSL they should also provide you with email=20
>> accounts.  If this is so, you could use their mail server as=3D20
>a gateway
>> for your mail server.  I've done this in the past with a DSL=3D20
>provider.
>> Edmonds, J.B. wrote:
>>> Excuse me if this is a worn out topic but until recently I=3D20
>had no reason
>>> to follow this.
>>> I am a network admin for a 1500 member non-profit who has=3D20
>run its own
>>> web and email server for over 10 years.  We recently relocated to a=20
>>> Verizon area in the states that has only DSL available and=3D20
>Static IP is
>>> NOT available.  We decided to use DynDNS as our solution=3D20
>and it works
>>> fine for web services.  It works OK for email EXCEPT we=3D20
>cannot deliver
>>> mail to AOL, Verizon, Comcast and Netzero customers, as=3D20
>they apparently
>>> block dynamic address IP address ranges.
>>>
>>> If any of you have been, or are in this situation, can you=3D20
>provide me
>>> some possible solutions.  I have investigated relay via DynDNS and=20
>>> SMTPAUTH but they charge by the recipient and one newsletter=20
>>> distribution a month approaches the cost of having our=3D20
>domain hosted by
>>> a commercial provider.  I actually considered this option=3D20
>until I see
>>> buried in the hosting sites and agreements a disclaimer=3D20
>that they will
>>> not guarantee email delivery to AOL and Verizon.  We have lots of=20
>>> members with AOL, Verizon, Comcast and Netzero accounts.
>>>
>>> The obvious solution is to move the server offsite but this=3D20
>doubles the
>>> cost of service.  Do you have experience with relay service=3D20
>providers
>>> and recommendations?
>>>
>>> JB Edmonds
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> --=3D20
>> Robert Schiffman
>> Director of Technology
>> Lounge Lizard Worldwide, Inc.
>> 620 Johnson Ave.
>> Suite 1B
>> Bohemia, NY 11716
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