On 30 Apr 2007, at 8:33, Edmonds, J.B. wrote:

> The smptgw.tab is just what I am looking for (granularity).  I don't
> know how to tell whether to use "Login", "CRAM-MD5" or "Plain" for the
> relay server.  In debug mode it doesn't show the actual interchange
> between the servers (or I don't know how to see it, this would actually
> be useful to log all of it).  I also cant tell if its actually working?
> It doesn't appear to be since the response back is exactly the same once
> I configured the tab file and userauth\smtp file.
> 
> It is unclear as to when to use smtpgw.tab or smtpfwd.tab to route
> outging through an ISP's server.  I don't need to route everything, just
> some domains that block me directly.=20
> 
> It would be nice if in the docs that there was a lead paragraph for each
> tab file that gave its purpose and normal usage.  Some are self
> explanatory and some are puzzling for a guy like me who only delves into
> this when I have a problem.  I would actually tackle it myself but just
> don't have the in-depth knowledge.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Rob Arends
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:36 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS
> 
> See here:
> 
> http://www.xmailserver.org/Readme.html#smtp_client_authentication=20
> 
> Either set up server.tab "defaultsmtpgateway"[tab]"mail.isp.com"
> Or add to smtpgw.tab "*"[tab]"mail.isp.com"
> 
> Then in $mailroot/userauth/smtp create file "mail.isp.com.tab"
> In it add "LOGIN"[tab]"username"[tab]"password"
> 
> Now, I've never tried this, but the doco is clear.
> Note: that LOGIN may be substituted as per the doco.
> 
> I expect that if you use an IP Address for the gateway, then the
> userauth/smtp file would be 1.2.3.4.tab (just guessing).
> 
> Note that the smtpgw.tab file method gives greater granularity in case
> you want to send mail for some domains to another relay.
> 
> Rob :-)
> =20
> _________________________________________________
> Note To Self: Remember to put something witty here later...
> =20
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Edmonds, J.B.
> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:06 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS
> 
> Thanks, it appears I can relay but must logon, presenting a different
> setup up problem.  How to do this in xmail?=3D20
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Rob Arends
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:01 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS
> 
> First thing to find out is if your ISP will allow you to relay for free.
> Second thing is, if you use SPF records, then include your ISP outgoing
> IP
> address(es) in your SPF record.
> 
> Then if at least #1, then relay via ISP.
> Those MTAs that deny mail from dynamic IPs, must not deny from the MTAs
> of that ISP.
> 
> Rob :-)
> =3D20
> _________________________________________________
> Note To Self: Remember to put something witty here later...
> =3D20
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Edmonds, J.B.
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:52 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS
> 
> That's exactly my concern.  I could be paying 3 cents per recipient to
> have the mail relayed, just to have it blocked anyway since the
> recipient's server does not allow relayed traffic from any =
> source.=3D3D20
> 
> I am looking for a better solution.

I still use dos/ka9q/pmail with smarthost set to xmail, however one 
of the options in ka9q config is to first try delivery to MX and 
fallback to smarthost on failure. Back when I was on dialup this 
solved problem getting mail through to AOL at various times and 
otherwise minimised dialup charges.

David

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