JB, There seems to be subtle differences between the two options, but in essence they do the same thing. Perhaps you could setup a second xmail server for a dummy domain that only allowed mail delivery for authenticated users. Then you could set up a dummy domain on the current xmail that is FWD/GW to the second xmail server with the Auth configured. You could also use wireshark (packet capture) to view the exchange and see what the error really is. Once you have it working "in the lab" then try the real world.
Rob :-) _________________________________________________ Note To Self: Remember to put something witty here later... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edmonds, J.B. Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 10:34 PM To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS The smptgw.tab is just what I am looking for (granularity). I don't know how to tell whether to use "Login", "CRAM-MD5" or "Plain" for the relay server. In debug mode it doesn't show the actual interchange between the servers (or I don't know how to see it, this would actually be useful to log all of it). I also cant tell if its actually working? It doesn't appear to be since the response back is exactly the same once I configured the tab file and userauth\smtp file. It is unclear as to when to use smtpgw.tab or smtpfwd.tab to route outging through an ISP's server. I don't need to route everything, just some domains that block me directly.=20 It would be nice if in the docs that there was a lead paragraph for each tab file that gave its purpose and normal usage. Some are self explanatory and some are puzzling for a guy like me who only delves into this when I have a problem. I would actually tackle it myself but just don't have the in-depth knowledge. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Arends Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:36 AM To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS See here: http://www.xmailserver.org/Readme.html#smtp_client_authentication=20 Either set up server.tab "defaultsmtpgateway"[tab]"mail.isp.com" Or add to smtpgw.tab "*"[tab]"mail.isp.com" Then in $mailroot/userauth/smtp create file "mail.isp.com.tab" In it add "LOGIN"[tab]"username"[tab]"password" Now, I've never tried this, but the doco is clear. Note: that LOGIN may be substituted as per the doco. I expect that if you use an IP Address for the gateway, then the userauth/smtp file would be 1.2.3.4.tab (just guessing). Note that the smtpgw.tab file method gives greater granularity in case you want to send mail for some domains to another relay. Rob :-) =20 _________________________________________________ Note To Self: Remember to put something witty here later... =20 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edmonds, J.B. Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:06 AM To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS Thanks, it appears I can relay but must logon, presenting a different setup up problem. How to do this in xmail?=3D20 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Arends Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:01 AM To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS First thing to find out is if your ISP will allow you to relay for free. Second thing is, if you use SPF records, then include your ISP outgoing IP address(es) in your SPF record. Then if at least #1, then relay via ISP. Those MTAs that deny mail from dynamic IPs, must not deny from the MTAs of that ISP. Rob :-) =3D20 _________________________________________________ Note To Self: Remember to put something witty here later... =3D20 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edmonds, J.B. Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:52 PM To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS That's exactly my concern. I could be paying 3 cents per recipient to have the mail relayed, just to have it blocked anyway since the recipient's server does not allow relayed traffic from any = source.=3D3D20 I am looking for a better solution. JB Edmonds -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CLEMENT Francis Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:39 AM To: 'xmail@xmailserver.org' Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS Just notice that using a 'external' relay server (even if it is your =3D =3D3D3D own isp) can also be denies at final destination servers if the external =3D =3D3D3D relay server is not declared in some way to be 'legitimate' to send mails of behalf of the sending domain (I have in mind spf for example). So the relay provider or you will (on dns with spf record for spf = =3D3D3D example) have to do some work ... If at this time spf and other 'sender server checks' algo are not = =3D3D3D largely used, they will become. Francis >-----Message d'origine----- >De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Ivo Smits >Envoy=3D3D3DE9 : jeudi 26 avril 2007 15:49 =3D3D3DC0 :=20 >xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS > > >Rollernet (http://www.rollernet.us/) can provide you with=3D3D3D20 =3D outgoing >=3D3D >SMTP=3D3D3D20 relay services (not free). Your ISP may also provide =3D you=3D3D20=3D20 >with=3D3D3D20 some (usually=3D3D3D20 >free) email relay. It may even be possible (I'm not sure about=3D3D3D20 >this) to get=3D3D3D20 >some static IP address, over a VPN connection. > >Ivo > >----- Original Message -----=3D3D3D20 >From: "Robert Schiffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <xmail@xmailserver.org> >Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:24 PM >Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS > > >> If you are on Verizon DSL they should also provide you with =3D email=3D3D20=3D20 >> accounts. If this is so, you could use their mail server as=3D3D3D20 >a gateway >> for your mail server. I've done this in the past with a DSL=3D3D3D20 >provider. >> Edmonds, J.B. wrote: >>> Excuse me if this is a worn out topic but until recently I=3D3D3D20 >had no reason >>> to follow this. >>> I am a network admin for a 1500 member non-profit who has=3D3D3D20 >run its own >>> web and email server for over 10 years. We recently relocated = to=3D20 >>> a=3D3D20 Verizon area in the states that has only DSL available =3D and=3D3D3D20 >Static IP is >>> NOT available. We decided to use DynDNS as our solution=3D3D3D20 >and it works >>> fine for web services. It works OK for email EXCEPT we=3D3D3D20 >cannot deliver >>> mail to AOL, Verizon, Comcast and Netzero customers, as=3D3D3D20 >they apparently >>> block dynamic address IP address ranges. >>> >>> If any of you have been, or are in this situation, can you=3D3D3D20 >provide me >>> some possible solutions. I have investigated relay via DynDNS=3D20=20 >>> and=3D3D20 SMTPAUTH but they charge by the recipient and one=3D20=20 >>> newsletter=3D3D20 distribution a month approaches the cost of=20 >>> having=3D20 our=3D3D3D20 >domain hosted by >>> a commercial provider. I actually considered this option=3D3D3D20 >until I see >>> buried in the hosting sites and agreements a disclaimer=3D3D3D20 >that they will >>> not guarantee email delivery to AOL and Verizon. We have lots =3D of=3D3D20 >>> members with AOL, Verizon, Comcast and Netzero accounts. >>> >>> The obvious solution is to move the server offsite but this=3D3D3D20 >doubles the >>> cost of service. Do you have experience with relay service=3D3D3D20 >providers >>> and recommendations? >>> >>> JB Edmonds >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe = xmail"=3D20=20 >>> in=3D3D20 the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For = general >>> =3D >>> help:=3D3D20 send the line "help" in the body of a message = to=3D3D20=3D20=20 >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> --=3D3D3D20 >> Robert Schiffman >> Director of Technology >> Lounge Lizard Worldwide, Inc. >> 620 Johnson Ave. >> Suite 1B >> Bohemia, NY 11716 >> 631-563-6165 ext. 21 >> 631-563-6278 (fax) >> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail"=20 >>in=3D20 =3D3D20 the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For=20 >>general=3D20 help:=3D3D20 send the line "help" in the body of a = message to >>=3D3D20=3D20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] =3D3D3D20 > >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the >body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the >line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
