Thanks for the reply. Haven't thought through it completely, your suggestion might be a nice Xmail enhancement (option for bounced email to be retried through another named relay server). I admit I'm not a email expert but more of a general networking guy, but his sounds like an interesting solution.
Looking back through the archives, I found that I am not alone. There are lots of messages from people who don't understand the difference in smtpgw.tab and smtpfwd.tab and don't know how to set them up (I'm still struggling). There is no really good tutorial on relaying and forwarding. That is more the problem than the docs for the tab files. Now that all the big dogs are coming up with clever ways to keep SPAM out, it is a challenge to get mail through legitimately. More and more ISP are refusing to issue static IPs and that is a real problem for business who run their own servers. The ISPs want the hosting business. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Lord Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 4:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS On 30 Apr 2007, at 8:33, Edmonds, J.B. wrote: > The smptgw.tab is just what I am looking for (granularity). I don't=20 > know how to tell whether to use "Login", "CRAM-MD5" or "Plain" for the > relay server. In debug mode it doesn't show the actual interchange=20 > between the servers (or I don't know how to see it, this would=20 > actually be useful to log all of it). I also cant tell if its actually working? > It doesn't appear to be since the response back is exactly the same=20 > once I configured the tab file and userauth\smtp file. >=20 > It is unclear as to when to use smtpgw.tab or smtpfwd.tab to route=20 > outging through an ISP's server. I don't need to route everything,=20 > just some domains that block me directly.=3D20 >=20 > It would be nice if in the docs that there was a lead paragraph for=20 > each tab file that gave its purpose and normal usage. Some are self=20 > explanatory and some are puzzling for a guy like me who only delves=20 > into this when I have a problem. I would actually tackle it myself=20 > but just don't have the in-depth knowledge. >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Rob Arends > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:36 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS >=20 > See here: >=20 > http://www.xmailserver.org/Readme.html#smtp_client_authentication=3D20 >=20 > Either set up server.tab "defaultsmtpgateway"[tab]"mail.isp.com" > Or add to smtpgw.tab "*"[tab]"mail.isp.com" >=20 > Then in $mailroot/userauth/smtp create file "mail.isp.com.tab" > In it add "LOGIN"[tab]"username"[tab]"password" >=20 > Now, I've never tried this, but the doco is clear. > Note: that LOGIN may be substituted as per the doco. >=20 > I expect that if you use an IP Address for the gateway, then the=20 > userauth/smtp file would be 1.2.3.4.tab (just guessing). >=20 > Note that the smtpgw.tab file method gives greater granularity in case > you want to send mail for some domains to another relay. >=20 > Rob :-) > =3D20 > _________________________________________________ > Note To Self: Remember to put something witty here later... > =3D20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Edmonds, J.B. > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:06 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS >=20 > Thanks, it appears I can relay but must logon, presenting a different=20 > setup up problem. How to do this in xmail?=3D3D20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Rob Arends > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:01 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS >=20 > First thing to find out is if your ISP will allow you to relay for free. > Second thing is, if you use SPF records, then include your ISP=20 > outgoing IP > address(es) in your SPF record. >=20 > Then if at least #1, then relay via ISP. > Those MTAs that deny mail from dynamic IPs, must not deny from the=20 > MTAs of that ISP. >=20 > Rob :-) > =3D3D20 > _________________________________________________ > Note To Self: Remember to put something witty here later... > =3D3D20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Edmonds, J.B. > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:52 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS >=20 > That's exactly my concern. I could be paying 3 cents per recipient to > have the mail relayed, just to have it blocked anyway since the=20 > recipient's server does not allow relayed traffic from any =3D=20 > source.=3D3D3D20 >=20 > I am looking for a better solution. I still use dos/ka9q/pmail with smarthost set to xmail, however one of the options in ka9q config is to first try delivery to MX and fallback to smarthost on failure. Back when I was on dialup this solved problem getting mail through to AOL at various times and otherwise minimised dialup charges. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
