Hi William:
Interesting response. I take exception to your closing paragraph, however. Dublin, Ohio, eh? Riding Sterling's coatstrings? The paragraph at issue, however is:
Out of curiosity, just what is your customer doing in XML? What XML
"messages" are being used? Which industry? Couldn't the customer have
just used EDI? Why all this rush to use XML?
/s
A Luddite,
A Luddite? The reference may be lost on others, but not on me. Why go away from traditional EDI? You haven't been paying attention, have you. First, traditional EDI is the domain of the VANs, who charge by the kilocharacter. The web is free - for companies doing real EDI, this is a significant savings. Further, isn't the point of this forum to recommend, refine, and encourage the use of XML. If we want to make a paradigm shift in B-2-B communication, and I, for one, do, then we have to support, help standardize, and use, new key technologies. Keep on Sterling's payroll, buddy.
Cheers,
Dave Irvine
-----Original Message-----
From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: July 19, 2000 11:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: ebXML Transport (E-mail); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; X12X TG4 XML
Subject: Re: Test vs. Production
Doug Anderson, of Kleinschmidt Inc., has written all around with:
Today in EDI we have a test/production indicator in the header
(ISA in ASC X12, UNB in UN/EDIFACT) that allows someone to route
the data to the correct system. Is there something similar in
XML either in use today or on the drawing board? We don't want
to create something if this has already been solved. We have a
customer that will be moving some of their trading partners into
production and would prefer not to have to change receiver ID's
in order to differentiate between those trading partners in test
vs. those in production.
Dear Doug:
The ebXML Initiative is developing a specification for Transport,
Packaging and Routing, roughly the analog of Internet EDI (EDIINT) and
ISO 9735 control information slapped together. You can find the latest
specifications at http://www.ebxml.org/specindex.htm, including the
ebXML TR&P Overview & Requirements v0-96 and the ebXML Message Envelope
Specification v0-5. Neither seem to cover this topic explicitly, though
the ebxmlheader <ServiceType> element, which looks like it is used for
internal routing to the appropriate application, might be called into
service for differentiating test and production. ebXML is not ready for
prime-time, yet. I've copied this to the ebXML TR&P group so they vet my
answer and add the requirement to their "To-Do" list.
You can also take a look at the BizTalk Framework 2.0, at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/xml/articles/biztalk/biztalkfwv2draft.asp.
N.B., BizTalk is now based on SOAP; it doesn't seem to have made a
provision for testing, either.
You probably want the indicator to be available in the transport and
packaging framework, rather than embedded within the application message
(e.g., the Open Travel Alliance (OTA) message root tag has a
production/test indicator).
Another alternative is to take the XML message and wrap it up in an ANSI
ASC X12 102 Associated Data transaction set! Then you can avail
yourself of the existing X12 headers to route the data. This would be
the most painless route for a "legacy" VAN, wouldn't it?
Out of curiosity, just what is your customer doing in XML? What XML
"messages" are being used? Which industry? Couldn't the customer have
just used EDI? Why all this rush to use XML?
/s
A Luddite,
William J. Kammerer
FORESIGHT Corp.
4950 Blazer Memorial Pkwy.
Dublin, OH USA 43017-3305
+1 614 791-1600
Visit FORESIGHT Corp. at http://www.foresightcorp.com/
"Commerce for a New World"
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