Doug,
Even if the Test/Prod flag is useful, wiser Trading Partners will control
the Test/Production mode within their own applications. What if a new
partner send test POs and forget to set the flag to "T"??? As a
manufacturer, I prefer to control it myself. For me, it doesn't matter if
the Partner send me T or P flag. I'm the one who decide when I'm ready to
go in production mode.... EDI, XML, WXYZ, you should control it yourself.
Regards,
Robert Richer
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Irvine [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 10:38 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Test vs. Production
>
>
>
> Usefull! I see the differentiation between test and production data as
> being absolutely critical! I can state an example where a customer of
> mine once ordered 11 Pink Bidet's, simply because the analyst conducting
> the test didn't realize that the fax server connected to the test machine
> was active. It's safe to say that the most commonly transacted EDI
> document is the PO, and the chance of a test PO being mistaken as a
> production order is a major concern. It can effect production schedules,
> shipping schedules, and effects shipping costs, inventorying costs,
> restocking costs, etc. What if the part ordered in error was a custom
> build part. Expensive. Who is on the hook for the cost. The relation
> between the data and whether it is test or production is critical in any
> electronic business relationship!
>
> D.G. (Dave) Irvine
> EDI Coordintator
> Emco Ltd.
> 1108 Dundas St.
> London, Ontario N5W 3A7
> Phone - (519) 453-9600 Ext.2203
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rachel Foerster [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> Sent: July 19, 2000 4:47 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Test vs. Production
>
>
> David,
>
> While your proposed solution to Doug's query is workable, your assumption
> that the prod/test flag in the EDI headers was caused by VANs is TOTALLY
> WRONG. The need to know about whether an interchange contains test or
> production data is important for the intended receiver's processing and
> makes no difference whatsoever to any VAN. Thus, the same "business
> requirement" will hold true for XML-formatted documents as well.
> Furthermore, I can see where it would be very useful for the intended
> receiver to know early on (in the transport message header area for
> example)
> whether the enclosed documents contain test or production data.
>
> Rachel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David RR Webber [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 10:35 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
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> Subject: re: Test vs. Production
>
>
> Message text written by Doug Anderson
> >
> Good Afternoon:
>
> Today in EDI we have a test/production indicator in the header (ISA in ASC
>
> X12, UNB in UN/EDIFACT) that allows someone to route the data to the
> correct
> system. Is there something similar in XML either in use today or on the
> drawing board? We don't want to create something if this has already been
>
> solved. We have a customer that will be moving some of their trading
> partners into production and would prefer not to have to change receiver
> ID's in order to differentiate between those trading partners in test vs.
> those in production.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Doug
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> I hate to say this but this is nothing to do with transactions - but
> everything to
> do with the goofy way VAN's worked in the past.
>
> A local look-up table:
>
> Cust ID, Trans ID, Status (Test / Prod )
>
> is all you need to fix this! Then locally you can choose what type of
> processing
> you are doing. This also helps when some TP's are in test, others
> already
> in
> prod' - they can locally determine their own actions.
>
> Notice you can also use this to switch dynamically
> on the fly -regardless of what the actual transaction says!
>
> The VAN's just never wanted to maintain this for you.
>
> DW.
>
>
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