On Fri, 4 Jul 2025, Felipe Contreras wrote:
On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 1:23 AM Michel Dänzer <mic...@daenzer.net> wrote:
On 2025-06-11 03:53, Felipe Contreras wrote:
On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 1:11 AM Carsten Haitzler
<ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
well the way it used to work back in the 80's and 90's is ... this
is where you stop waiting for someone else to do it and get up and
do it yourself.
Of course, and that's what I've done with multiple projects. But
then political nonsense kicks in and meritocracy is thrown out the
window. Maintainers end up believing they are my boss and are
entitled to my free time.
Let me point out you're doing something similar here: You're expecting current
members of the xserver project to commit to *maintaining and developing Xorg
indefinitely*.
No, I'm not. Asking a question doesn't entail any expectation.
If I ask you "can you please pass the guacamole?" and you reply "no",
I'll just grab it myself.
Multiple project members are keeping the lights on for Xorg.
Are they? I'm pretty sure I can grab a release from 2015 and it'll
work just fine.
But that's precisely the question that I'm asking: "are you keeping
the lights on?". *Nobody* is answering.
I would like that to be the case, because I have told many Wayland
advocates that there's multiple Xorg developers committed to the
project, because I assumed if there are users, there must be
developers. Apparently I was wrong, and the only developer that cared
about the future of Xorg was permanently banned with no reason given.
Let's change the language, shall we?
There are many developers having fun with Xorg. Some on the list, some
not, some will reply to you, some not.
There might be some that are employed to work on Xorg. In USA that usually
means two weeks notice, so that is the total extent of the "commitment".
If they have to switch to a new job it will likely displace any open
source contributions for at least a month.
People having fun produce good code. Don't mess with it.
best
Vladimir Dergachev
