Pasi Lallinaho wrote: > Jim Campbell wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> Although I was only there for two of the days, and Cody was sick for >> one of those two days, Cody and I we were able to meet during UDS, and >> talk about possible plans for the 10.04 release of Xubuntu. >> >> >> >> Of course we talked about some of the regular topics (and I'll have a >> separate email about those), but I wanted to separate out a key >> component of our plans from any discussions about regular >> distro-related issues. Specifically, we need to talk about team >> leadership and team member roles. >> >> As you know, after several releases as the project lead for Xubuntu, >> Cody wants to step down and assume the role of a regular contributor. >> I spoke briefly with Daniel Holbach while at UDS, and the community >> council would prefer that we attempt to come to a decision as a group >> instead of just bringing the matter to the community council. It >> makes sense, as we should be self-directed rather than dependent on an >> outside group to come to a decision that we may not like (and that may >> not work for us). >> >> >> With that, it's really up to us to decide how we handle the >> transition. Do we want to continue to have a singular project >> leader? If so, what responsibilities would that entail, and who could >> that be? If we choose not to go that route, or if no one wishes to >> assume that role, could a group of people assume particular leadership >> roles? What could this look like? >> >> >> >> We need to decide this as a community, so please share your thoughts. >> What would be best for Xubuntu? What would you like to see? What >> concerns do you have, and how could those concerns be addressed? What >> role(s) would you be willing and able to assume? Feel free to share >> any other questions or thoughts. >> >> >> Thanks very much, >> >> >> Jim >> >> >> > Thanks Jim for bringing this topic up. I appreciate it very much. > > With all respect to Cody, I think the singular project leader approach > didn't work out too great on some of the situations. Too many times I > thought there was this one guy who always could veto anything any other > leader had done. This was discussed once thoroughly and as Cody said, he > thought working with the rest of the team was easier and kind of more > pleasant. And I couldn't agree more. There wasn't that much decisions to > be done after that, so I don't know if this approach would have worked > in the long run after all. > > Thank you again, Cody. > > So where am I coming here? Well, I think Xubuntu could benefit from > several leadership roles. Maybe these leaders could form some kind of > council to discuss some important things and bring a shared > conclusion/settlement if the developer community seems to disagree a > lot. If there still would be disagreement and the council couldn't come > to any conclusion, then I think the leader for the particular team would > have the final word. > > I once left the Amarok project as I wasn't listened to when I spoke on > artwork and web – even if I was clearly the guy with most experience on > those areas. I've had a fear that the Xubuntu team would slowly slide > into this situation and several coordinated and equal powered leaders > would definitely take away this fear. > > Referring to my previous email to the development mailing list [1] I > will focus on other things than previously, but I'm willing to continue > as the Xubuntu Marketing Lead if nobody has any objections about that. > This would probably also mean that I'd be one of the several leaders, > representing marketing and, obviously, artwork. > > Whatever the path is we choose to follow, one thing is for sure: we need > more developers. > > [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2009-October/007158.html > > Cheers, > > -- > Pasi Lallinaho > Xubuntu Marketing Lead > Web-designer, graphic artist > IRC: knome @ freenode >
I concur completely with Pasi, A council of some sort is (almost) always the best way to handle community projects. It allows more thought and process as well as serves as a sort of fail-safe for when someone cannot perform their duties. As a new member of the community I will continue to find my place within it that best serves the users and further development of the system itself. I have several ideas and criticisms I'd like to bring into 'play' concerning the Lucid development process and I think the council idea would make it easier for smaller voices to be heard and considered. - J -- xubuntu-devel mailing list xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
