well comrrade Mdu i have been too much busy with election work that i have been out of touch with the public discourse,malema was also at rustenburg at the weekend but i did not go.thats how busy i was. well as for comrades to say malame was right it is most unfortunate.malema represents the entire membership of the youth league on issues he raises in the public discourse.he lost his individual right to speak as an individual when he was affirmed the president of the youth league by the NEC of the ANC. cde senzo dlamini must assit us in distinguishing the fact and opinion on the matter.
it cant be correct for Malema to utter such statements.the issue of whether the woman who alleged that Jz raped her is not an issue here.the issue is that was it really necessary and important for a president to say such a sexist statement.im not disapointed because such statements are expected from him. god save us from false prophets. On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:32 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Cde Mdu > > I think we need to be honest, Cde Senzo Ncongolo did not distiguish the > difference between the opinion and a fact on this matter. Malema made a > story and created an expample of it using a rape saga of Cde JZ. I cannot > judge whether he was wholy or partially right or wrong by so doing. But > the truth is that Malema made an opinion as a human being regarding issues > of satisfaction and then he was trying to illustrate using the example of > that saga. It has nothing to do with violating the rights of the women or > the Sonke Gender Justice Network. I propose that we close this debate and > focus on building capacity on each other with due respect comrades. We > cannot be discussing opinions that are informed by feelings of individuals > like Julias Malema, because next time we will end up discussing the > statement made by Sundowns Head Coach regarding his players. > > Amandla!! > > > > > Cde Senzo, > > > > Are you that away from public discourse? These statements received not > > only media coverage but also the attention of the Gender Commission. Yes, > > the president did utter such statements. > > > > These are vies on the behavior of women in the morning. The unfortunate > > part is that the president was referring to the woman who accused JZ of > > rape (mind you, the court resolved on this matter). > > > > Was it correct for the president to dig the unfortunate past (now that > the > > court has put a logical closure to the matter)? If not, did he realised > > that he brought an old issue to public discourse? Was it that he wanted > to > > reignite hatred of society towards that woman? > > > > Surely, i was not impressed about the issue coming back to haunt society > > again after its long spell in the past. > > > > Cde Senzo, i know you as someone who is always updated on current > affairs. > > What went wrong? > > > >>>> senzo ncongolo <[email protected]> 10/02/2009 13:30 >>> > > if indeed the president uttered this statements it just questions how a > > disciplined cadre of the movement, President of young people in the > > country can speak such things.i would be disapointed if indeed he said > > these things, but then again why worry if we are embracing this tendency. > > > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:21 AM, zingisani nkanjeni < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > cde's tell me what is these > > > > Sonke Gender Justice Network Strongly Condemns Comments Made by Julius > > Malema, ANC Youth League Leader: > > > > Cape Town/Johannesburg, 28 January 2009: The Sonke Gender Justice Network > > is deeply disturbed by the sexist comments made last week by ANC Youth > > League president Julius Malema and by the failure of the ANC to sanction > > him. > > Last week, at a meeting with 150 Cape Peninsula University of Technology > > students on January 22, Malema suggested that the woman who accused ANC > > president Jacob Zuma of rape had a "nice time" with him and said, "when a > > woman didn't enjoy it, she leaves early in the morning. 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