Cde VC, Well doesn't that offer us a chance to transform those institutions to bring them under workers, control. I mean which one is easier to transform : A state led institution , or a privately owned enterprise?...I think we've got lot to learn from the 1996 class project...if we can look and adopt the projects buy-in approach we can be able to make giant strides...thats the essence of alliances...the ANC from a Marxist perspective is inherently an anti-progressive structure, but because we are in alliance with it, we are able to stretch our hegemony towards it...othrwise anything else is tatamount to saying...we shouldn't as ASCP members addressed the Natioal question in the first place...
This is what I suggest that the SACP should do( and I've long outlined that in the proposed economic policy document I long posted in the CU website): 1. Pilot the joint ownership of the State Owned Enterprises. 2. Form sector associations in every industry to lobby the government to unpack to the socialist agenda. 3. Model the rural development Strategy along socialist lines. 4. develop a Time-compressed catch strategy that will rake -in Universities, Csir, Pic as well as the Department of Science and technologies to duplicate our economy and the give the technology to the working class. Up to som far, no one has really commented on the proposals...it is in tha t light that i have always been of the view that we need a more independent platform to develop these percpectives... We are now at the tresh-hold of socialism..and we shouldn't really expect to come across any huge Chinese Wall...the two stage revolution theory is but a theory...to simplify issues...Socialism starts today...now is the time... Xoli On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]>wrote: > Nationalisation by the bourgeoisie is nationalisation for the bourgeoisie. > > > In history, most of nationalisation has been of this character. > > It is not true that nationalisation, as such, automatically leads to > benefits for the working class. > > Now, tell me truly, is not Julius Malema part of an Mvela group that is > sponsored by Tokyo Sexwale, a big mining businessman? > > So what is going on? > > By the way, we have had this debate before. No way can the communists be > accused of silence. When the communists did speak, they were met with > screaming rage and insults. Why do people forget so fast? The insults, which > I will not repeat, but there were many of them, and they included all of us, > are the reason why comrades objected to the impertinent presence of Julius > Malema at the Special National Congress. > > Or have you been blinded by Tokyo Sexwale's "report", which somehow fails > to mention that Malema had been publicly insulting the communists, and I > mean all the communists, for weeks prior to the moment when Tokyo pretended > to notice for the first time that something was happening? > > Comrades, you are getting a lesson in something called demagogy. > > > VC > > > > > On 3 February 2010 07:40, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Qabane, cde mantashe articulates the decisions of the ANC as ANC GS and >> articulates the views of the SACP as SACP chairperson and let us not >> confuse his different roles. Infact I agree with the view that we need to >> have more radical approach but that can not be done by Gwede alone as ANC >> GS. That can be done by being more influencial to ANC NEC at large, become >> more influencial in all structures of ANC in particular and ultimately to >> have more radical change in ANC policies during ANC policy conferences and >> congresses. >> >> Cdes im very worried by the silence of SACP, COSATU AND YCL in issue of >> nationalisation of mines even if we dont agree with ANCYL version we must >> put more flash on it. May that is why we hear likes of Shabangu so strong >> about impossibility of nationalisation of mines and i wonder why. Infact >> cdes, there might be a reason beind the ANCYL call which we might not know >> but one will ask what is our position. >> >> Malemas say that Gwede is a goner might not be undermined maqabane. Malema >> thinks he is the POWER HOUSE of this ANC led movement and we must teach >> him a lesson. Cdes if we allow Gwede to be out voted, that will mean we >> are not at all ready to start building socialism. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> South Africa's premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> For super low premiums, click here http://home.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm >> >> -- >> You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >> Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to >> this message. >> You can visit the group WEB SITE at >> http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery >> options, pages, files and membership. >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected]. >> You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to >> put anything in the message part. 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