*The British think we're barbaric, says Zuma * By Moshoeshoe Monare Group Political Editor
President Jacob Zuma said he was not surprised by the UK press's scathing criticism of his polygamous practices because Britons have always believed that Africans were "barbaric" and "inferior". In what could spark a diplomatic row, Zuma said those who did not understand his culture should engage with and not hurl insults at him. "When the British came to our country, they said everything we are doing was barbaric, was wrong, inferior in whatever way. Bear in mind that I'm a freedom fighter and I fought to free myself, also for my culture to be respected. "And I don't know why they are continuing thinking that their culture is more superior than others, those who might have said so. "I am very clear on these issues, I've not looked down upon any culture of anyone ... and no one has been given an authority to judge others. "The British have done that before, as they colonised us, and they continue to do this, and it's an unfortunate thing. If people want an engagement, I'm sure we will engage on that issue," he told The Star before he started his three-day state visit - his first one to a major power. British papers competed for the sleaziest headlines on Zuma - who brought his third wife, Thobeka Madiba-Zuma, to the UK. They ridiculed his big family and other sexual escapades - mostly prompted by revelations of his latest love child out of wedlock with Sonono Khoza. The Guardian - which settled out of court following a defamatory article a year ago - even resuscitated his rape and corruption charges. The presidential aides were more concerned by the vicious Daily Mail, which described him as "a buffoon" and "a sex-obsessed bigot" and claimed that Zuma has 35 children, including twins with a Ukrainian woman. Some of the readers of the Daily Mail online - including South Africans - questioned why the UK was hosting "a despot". Meanwhile, Zuma said he would raise the issue of Britain "snatching" South African nurses and other health workers. "When you take very skilled people away, it does impact very negatively to us. I am sure the issue will be talked about." He brought with him a contingent of more than 200 business people and 12 ministers, hoping to get foreign direct investment, as he is under pressure to provide jobs for his constituency. Zuma reassured the British corporations that the country's economic policies would not be tweaked, and that they should not fear the nationalisation debate. "We are saying to business that these are our policies - come to South Africa and create jobs. If you are unable to articulate that, there will be no jobs, there will be no investments. "Our policies are based on the principles of a mixed economy, the private sector, the open economy and the participation of the state. That's what we need to clear. People are worried - as if we are about to legislate and make law, far from it," he said. He also said he would prod the British to lift sanctions in Zimbabwe and give the power-sharing government a chance. "We have said the sanctions must be lifted to help the process in Zimbabwe. That's part of what I will do when I am here on that issue. "We are interacting with Zimbabweans on that issue. They have raised issues, for example, (Zanu-PF has said) 'you have a unity government where half of its ministers can travel all over the world, half of it cannot travel'. "It hampers them, according to their own view. Why don't you say 'let us give the unity government fully blown freedom so that it can be able to move forward?'" On South Africa celebrating the 100 days before the World Cup, Zuma said: "The fact that four months before the World Cup we completed almost everything is indicative that we are ready." - This article was originally published on page 1 of The Star<http://www.thestar.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=5375278>on March 03, 2010 [image: Star] <http://www.iol.co.za/html/frame_thestar.php> *Published on the Web by IOL on 2010-03-03 04:19:00* ------------------------------ *© 1999 - 2010 Independent Online. All rights strictly reserved.* Independent Online is a wholly owned subsidiary of Independent News & Media. Reliance on the information this site contains is at your own risk. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:44 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear V.C. > > I have noted on many occassions that you are anti-Julius, with your > posting of articles about him in the forum that you have created. > Succesfully so, you have also managed to influence few gullible comrades > in this forum to behave like yourself. Now you seem to be defending the > foreign journalists and British newspapers. To me it does not matter how > and who founded them. They remain Western with anti-African agenda. > I imagine, with the report trhat came out last week about te wive to the > most senior uionist in the country and his wife's dubious business > dealings, you had no strength to post them here because of your loyalty to > his thinking of a possible socialism in this country. There has been > numerous reports that you could have sent about other cadres, but your > dislike of Julius has made him your sole focus. You are becoming a > nuisance with those posting and attachments from the Business Day and the > likes that do not represent the working class of this country. Even if we > participate in this forum at your mercy, but some maturity should also be > found in you. > > I expect your disciples are going to insult me and your response would be > unfriendly, as you usually deal with those who disagree with you. > > Your love of the MDC has depeen your dislike of Julius and has even > allowed this forum not to debate issues but to be a platfior to lambast > him, with no opportunity to defend himself. You have kept quite on his > recalling, not only today, but on previous occassions, but at the same you > imagine yourself as a seasoned cadre. > > You go on to call the President of the ANC Youth League, elected by the > Conference, not a faction, or even by amending the Constitutin, a > chauvinistic. Is this how far you can dispolay your dislike of Julius. > > Why am I surprise with that attitude? Perhaps I should not have thought > that you are teh person I thought you were when I met you at some stage in > my life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Cde Cedric, > > > > Let me offer a little bit of factual personal witness. > > > > You may be aware that I once worked for the London-based communist > British > > national daily newspaper, the *Morning > > Star<http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/index.php>, > > as did my son James after me.* > > > > The Daily Star is a bourgeois newspaper that was started deliberately to > > undermine the Morning Star, which then challenged their publishers for > > stealing our title. We lost that battle in the court and had insufficient > > funds for an appeal. It hurt the Morning Star. > > > > You are now sending round a PDF of the Daily Star and calling it "British > > Media". > > > > I think it is as well to remember that the class struggle is going on in > > all > > countries and that the class struggle is manifest in the media as in > every > > other aspect of society. > > > > The Daily Star is a vicious anti-working class newspaper sold to > > working-class readers for next to nothing. > > > > Jonah Fisher's question to Julius Malema, as to why he was criticising > the > > MDC for working out of Sandton in this country, when Malema himself > > actually > > lives in Sandton, was a fair and class-conscious question which the > > Morning > > Star would have been proud to ask and happy to hear answered. > > > > The people who work for the British newspaper and broadcast media, > > including > > the journalists, are workers, and should be respected as such, just as > > much > > as your members who may work for arms manufacturers, for example, must be > > respected as workers even if the arms they make are sold to the > > Imperialists > > to kill workers in other countries. > > > > The solution is revolution and not chauvinism. > > > > Chauvinism is, as August Bebel put it, the socialism of fools. > > > > > > Workers of the world, unite! > > > > > > VC > > > > > > > > On 9 April 2010 11:29, sabelo gina <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Please see how British Media present South Africa. > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: Mmagauta More <[email protected]> > >> Date: Apr 8, 2010 12:36 PM > >> Subject: FW: UK Newspaper > >> To: Lindi Sibiya <[email protected]>, Ngwako Mahosi < > >> [email protected]>, Nini Nzimande <[email protected]>, Mbuso > >> Zungu > >> <[email protected]>, Sabelo Gina <[email protected]>, Raisibe > Luthuli > >> < > >> [email protected]>, Basetsana Molobye <[email protected]>, > Andiswa > >> Mngomezulu <[email protected]>, Ndleleni Maqubela < > >> [email protected]>, Kefilwe Mothibedi > >> <[email protected]>, > >> Joyce Matlala <[email protected]>, Morwesi More < > >> [email protected]>, Mmule More <[email protected]>, > Evodia > >> Mokgele <[email protected]>, Lee Zama <[email protected]>, > >> Muvhango JR <[email protected]>, Jane Sithole > >> <[email protected]>, > >> Gaborone Phahle <[email protected]>, Thokozane Kgame < > >> [email protected]>, Pumla Bolani <[email protected]>, Lemogang > >> Pitsoe <[email protected]>, Bertha > >> <[email protected]>, > >> Nhlanhla Xakaza <[email protected]> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Cedric Sabelo Gina > >> NUMSA President > >> NUMSA Head Office > >> 153 Bree Street > >> Newtown, Johannesburg > >> 2021 > >> Tel: 011-6891700 > >> Fax: 011-8344320 > >> Mobile: +27836335381 > >> > >> -- > >> You are subscribed. 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