I would still like Cde Skhumbizo to tell us what his intentions are, in
posting this article.

One problem is that we are in the middle of a furore about press freedom.
There are many terrible things in the media such as lies and smears and we
want to protest about those.

But if we start saying that anti-communists like Barney Mthombothi are to be
dealt with, just because they are anti-communist, then we are on a slippery
slope.

The way to respond is with polemic. That is, you take Mthombothi's article
and you expose all his lies, including his bogus Lenin quote and his claim
that he, as a media person, is democratic, while the democracy of the
country according to Mthombothi is making a war on democracy.

You expose the lies and you lambaste the old hypocrite. But Cde Skhumbuzo
did not do so. All he did was to trail Mthombothi's article past us, noting
only that Mthobothi had insulted the SACP GS. Whereas Mthombothi's article
insulted others as well as Cde Blade and also made some seriously wrong
statements.

I suspect Cde Skhumbuzo is just too lazy to do the polemical job that is
required and he wants to volunteer somebody else to do it. That is behaviour
that we all know in meetings et cetera. Comrades get up and call for things
to be done, when they should have just done them already.


VC





On 6 August 2010 09:44, Luzuko Buku <[email protected]> wrote:

> I fully concure with comrade Khanye, sometimes as communist we must expose
> ourselve to these liberal onsloughts in order to defend our position and our
> ideology, which informs our quest. Some people hold different views but I
> read anti-communist works in order to stregthen the ideology that  I have
> made to be part of my life. For instance the writer of this article
> opportunistically connects the issue of lavish lifestyles of some cadres to
> the debate on media tribunal. This is a clear attempt to blackmail us into
> silence and stop persuing the debate on the Media Appeals Tribunal. We need
> to read such articles in order to challange them. In the recent Msebenzi
> Oline, comrade Jeremy Cronin goes about reading the reactionary articles
> of various columnist in order to expose their poor substance and
> rich grandstanding. Remember the Communist Party of London read the entire
> "Black book of Communism" and then wrote an entire pamphlet not just
> dismissing it but also exposing its flaws, myths and misrepresentations.
>
> Revolutionary Regards
>
>
> Luzuko Buku
> SASCO Regional Chair
>
> Western Region (EC)
> 0786172286
> www.lbuku.blogspot.com
>
>
> "The state is the product and manifestation of the irreconcilability of
> class antagonisms..."State and Revolution, Lenin (1917)
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* khaye nkwanyana <[email protected]>
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Fri, August 6, 2010 10:32:23 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [YCLSA Discussion] A Duhring Wanna BEE
>
> VC I think you are unfair to Skhumbuzo. At times as communist we need to
> appraise ourselves about onslaughts pursued against us and our leadership so
> that we mobilize against those in the battle of ideas. This posting by Thomo
> should not mean a call for comrades to internalize but to fight the agenda
> through opinion pieces etc. In the same bourgeois media to demistify these
> myths.
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
> ------------------------------
> *From: *Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]>
> *Sender: *[email protected]
> *Date: *Fri, 6 Aug 2010 08:49:45 +0200
> *To: *<[email protected]>
> *ReplyTo: *[email protected]
> *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] A Duhring Wanna BEE
>
> Skhumbuzo,
>
> Is it your intention to be posting all the anti-communist articles that you
> can find?
>
> Why? What is the use of that?
>
> Do you think we are all going to run barking after the Barney Mthombothis
> of this world like your pack of hounds?
>
> This article helps us not at all to understand anything.
>
> Are you the kind of bloke who reads the Duhring part of anti-Duhring, and
> ignores the Engels part? Because, frankly, that's a bit boring.
>
> Personally I read the Engels parts and ignore the bits about Duhring.
>
>
> VC
>
>
>
> On 6 August 2010 08:12, Sikhumbuzo Thomo <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Comrades;
>>
>> Pasted are further insults on our general secretary.
>>
>> Rgds, ST
>>
>>     Barney Mthombothi
>>
>> Editor’s note <http://www.fm.co.za/Article.aspx?id=117201> Deadly threat
>> to all <http://www.fm.co.za/Article.aspx?id=117201>
>>  Barney Mthombothi
>> Thursday, 5 Aug 2010
>>
>>  The collapse of the Soviet Union two decades ago exposed not only the
>> bankruptcy of its ideology but the rich and obscene lifestyle of its leaders
>> — the dachas where they romped and lolled and the extravagantly furnished
>> bunkers where they would have safely repaired in the event of a nuclear
>> attack.
>>
>> <http://ad.za.doubleclick.net/jump/n5963.financialmail/fm.life;tile=3;sz=728x90;ord=123456789?>
>>
>> *Meanwhile ordinary people were constantly exhorted *to put their faith
>> in the revolution. It was dachas for the cream of society and gulags for
>> dissenters.
>>
>> Communism is an ideology conceived in a lie. Leaders say one thing while
>> doing the other. They live a life of deception. They don’t seem prepared to
>> live the life or reality they often romanticise, or to which their policies
>> condemn ordinary people. And because the media and other forms of
>> communication are controlled by the state, the so-called working class are
>> kept in the dark and therefore meekly accept their lot.
>>
>> That is the nirvana that Blade Nzimande has in mind for us. The general
>> secretary of the SA Communist Party, who works as minister for higher
>> education when he feels like it, wants the media shackled because it has
>> shown him up to be a hypocrite. This champion of the working class drives
>> posh cars and lives it up in fancy hotels — at our expense. Now he wants a
>> tribunal to stop or frustrate the media from telling the truth.
>>
>> But that’s par for the course, I suppose. After all it was Vladimir Lenin
>> who blurted: “Telling the truth is a bourgeois prejudice. Deception, on the
>> other hand, is often justified by the goal.”
>>
>> It’s revealing that the two men leading the campaign against the media
>> have been in the news for the wrong reasons : Nzimande and communications
>> minister Siphiwe Nyanda . Nyanda, the man with a fine taste for tenders, has
>> seen his name crop up in many an unsavoury scrap as a result of his business
>> dealings. He got a tender that got Siyabonga Gama fired at Transnet. He’s
>> currently embroiled in a messy fight with his director- general, and tenders
>> are at the heart of the dispute. On Sunday he wrote a long, rambling article
>> in favour of a media tribunal. The logic was difficult to follow. He should
>> stick to tenders.
>>
>> There are those who may think the media is obsessed with gazing at its own
>> navel. This is not a war waged against the media only, but against democracy
>> itself. It challenges the very essence of our constitution. As the FM argued
>> recently, it is a battle that should involve all strands of society —
>> business, civil society — against those who are intent on imposing darkness
>> on us, so that they can loot and plunder at will.
>>
>> This is by no means an isolated attack. In the eyes of Jacob Zuma’s
>> supporters, the media forms part of that axis of evil — to borrow a phrase —
>> which almost denied their hero what he was due ; the other axis members
>> being the Scorpions and the judiciary. Zuma’s triumph in Polokwane sounded
>> the death knell for the Scorpions, who were immediately consigned to the
>> scrapheap. The judiciary has been shouted down and almost cowed. Which
>> leaves the media, with its enormous power to influence public opinion and to
>> expose, shame and embarrass those in authority.
>>
>> As Lenin once posed the question, what then is to be done? The media
>> tribunal and the Protection of Information Bill seem to be the answer. The
>> notion of “protecting” information from the public in a democracy is,
>> frankly, bizarre.
>>
>> It’s not the first time government has tried to rein in the media. The
>> Nats tried several times, and failed each time . This lot, which seem keen
>> to learn from their predecessors, will also fail. But that would demand
>> concerted action from all sectors of society, including the business
>> community. For once, business needs to raise its voice against what is
>> arguably the biggest threat to our democracy since the fall of apartheid.
>>
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