Can somebody post the whole report here. I see papers saying that the General is guilty, now, I do not understand how criminal law works in our democratic country.
Can a Section 9 institution pronounce on a guilt or no guilt of a person who did not have a chance to cross examine the witnesses that testify against him or her? Kind regards, Cedric Sabelo Gina On 23 Feb 2011, at 13:51, Matela Mthwalo <[email protected]> wrote: > Comrades, > > Yesterday I was listening to SAFM when this report was presented by Ms > Madonsela. One moron sent an SMS and called Public Protector a > "reactionary". People have the right to express their opinions, but > calling a head section 9 Institution of the Constitution a reactionary > simply because she presented findings that you dont agree with is > totally our of order! > > On Cele findings, I happen to read the article in which police > spokesperson was interview. According to SAPS the man is > innocent...let's see how it unfolds. I remember SAPS was sent a set > of questions to answer, this could only mean they failed to give > adequate answers! > > MATELA > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Godfrey Simelane <[email protected]> > wrote: >> THE Public Protector has singled out national police commissioner General >> Bheki Cele as being guilty of improper conduct and maladministration >> regarding the controversial R500 million lease agreement with Roux >> Shabangu's Roux Property Fund for the Sanlam Middestad Building in Pretoria >> >> Public Protector Advocate Thuli Madonsela told a press briefing in Pretoria >> yesterday that though Cele did not sign the lease agreement, his involvement >> in the procurement process was improper, unlawful and amounted to >> maladministration. >> >> However, the Public Protector could not find any evidence of improper >> relationship between Shabangu and Cele. >> >> Madonsela said the SAPS failed to implement proper controls as required by >> the Public Finance Management Act and relevant procurement guidelines, which >> amounted to improper conduct and maladministration. >> >> She recommended that Minister of Police Nathi Mthethwa take steps to ensure >> that appropriate action is instituted against SAPS officials that acted >> unlawful in the procurement process. >> >> "The National Treasury should urgently review the purported lease agreement >> between the Department of Public Works and Roux Property Fund in order to >> determine if the contract can be terminated," she said. >> >> The report stated that Cele challenged the legality of the Public >> Protector's investigative process and the participation of the Special >> Investigation Unit when he responded to the findings of the report. >> >> "The national commissioner claimed that he was materially prejudiced in >> preparing the response as he was not provided with a copy of the complaint >> ... access to the documents, witness statements and any other evidence >> relied upon for the findings and conclusions made in the draft report," the >> report stated. >> >> According to the report, the national commissioner also expected to be >> provided with the identity of "the people making accusations against me >> and/or the SAPS". >> >> Regarding the Department of Public Works' involvement in the saga, Madonsela >> said shortly after her appointment as minister of public works in October >> last year, Gwen Mahlangu-Nkabinde was advised that the lease agreement was >> unlawful - but her department went on to advise Nedbank, Roux's financier, >> that the deal was still in force. >> >> The Public Protector investigated the lease agreement following a complaint >> from Freedom Front Plus' Pieter Groenewald and Paul Hoffman of the Institute >> for Accountability in South Africa >> >> LEGAL DISCLAIMER AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This message may contain information which is confidential, private or >> privileged in nature. 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