On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Thembela Gazi <[email protected]> wrote:
> Newspapers will always add a sensationalist stance on any story hence the > headlines about Cele being GUILTY. > I think comrades should appreciate the issues raised by the Public > Protector on issues of governance as underpinned by the Constitution. There > were clear vilolations of key aspects of corporate governance by all parties > involved both SAPS and DPW. I am not sure why the medis focus is only on > SAPS (Cele) as DPW clearly violated its own procurement guidelines. > I just hope that as a country we will give the necessary support to such > institution to investigate matters without fear or favour. If Cele, > Mhlangu-Nkabinde and others disagree with the findings of the Public > Protector I am sure that are resourse mechanisms in law to challenge those > findings. > > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Matela Mthwalo > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Cde, >> >> Point of correction, Commissioners are not appointed under Publci >> Service Act.... >> >> Matela Mthwalo >> >> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Deveryl Simmers <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > I founf it strange that media is saying Bheki Cele was found guilty of >> > improper conduct and maladministration. This evbidence was solely based >> on >> > the findings of a senior counsel. In terms of Labour Relation Practices >> > within nthe Public Service the finding issued may inturn pprove Bheki >> Cele >> > innocent. At no point was the public proctector inquiry done in >> accordance >> > with the public Service Act.This would be interesting?????? >> > >> > On 23 February 2011 13:31, Godfrey Simelane <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> THE Public Protector has singled out national police commissioner >> General >> >> Bheki Cele as being guilty of improper conduct and maladministration >> >> regarding the controversial R500 million lease agreement with Roux >> >> Shabangu's Roux Property Fund for the Sanlam Middestad Building in >> Pretoria >> >> >> >> Public Protector Advocate Thuli Madonsela told a press briefing in >> >> Pretoria yesterday that though Cele did not sign the lease agreement, >> his >> >> involvement in the procurement process was improper, unlawful and >> amounted >> >> to maladministration. >> >> >> >> However, the Public Protector could not find any evidence of improper >> >> relationship between Shabangu and Cele. >> >> >> >> Madonsela said the SAPS failed to implement proper controls as required >> by >> >> the Public Finance Management Act and relevant procurement guidelines, >> which >> >> amounted to improper conduct and maladministration. >> >> >> >> She recommended that Minister of Police Nathi Mthethwa take steps to >> >> ensure that appropriate action is instituted against SAPS officials >> that >> >> acted unlawful in the procurement process. >> >> >> >> "The National Treasury should urgently review the purported lease >> >> agreement between the Department of Public Works and Roux Property Fund >> in >> >> order to determine if the contract can be terminated," she said. >> >> >> >> The report stated that Cele challenged the legality of the Public >> >> Protector's investigative process and the participation of the Special >> >> Investigation Unit when he responded to the findings of the report. >> >> >> >> "The national commissioner claimed that he was materially prejudiced in >> >> preparing the response as he was not provided with a copy of the >> complaint >> >> ... access to the documents, witness statements and any other evidence >> >> relied upon for the findings and conclusions made in the draft report," >> the >> >> report stated. >> >> >> >> According to the report, the national commissioner also expected to be >> >> provided with the identity of "the people making accusations against me >> >> and/or the SAPS". >> >> >> >> Regarding the Department of Public Works' involvement in the saga, >> >> Madonsela said shortly after her appointment as minister of public >> works in >> >> October last year, Gwen Mahlangu-Nkabinde was advised that the lease >> >> agreement was unlawful - but her department went on to advise Nedbank, >> >> Roux's financier, that the deal was still in force. >> >> >> >> The Public Protector investigated the lease agreement following a >> >> complaint from Freedom Front Plus' Pieter Groenewald and Paul Hoffman >> of the >> >> Institute for Accountability in South Africa >> >> >> >> LEGAL DISCLAIMER AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> >> >> This message may contain information which is confidential, private or >> >> privileged in nature. 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