Dear Lazola, Please don't flutter us.
Regards, madala On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:51 AM, Lazola Ndamase <[email protected]> wrote: > Comrade VC and others > > I barely comment in this forum, simply because I believe I can learn > through the dialogue of others. The only time I am ever in the forum is when > I post statements of SASCO: all of which by the way have been barely > critical of the Minister of Higher Education. I wonder what then do you mean > "what you know of Lazola Ndamase in this forum"? > > I remember a good friend of mine: Lazola Ndlazilwana, one who comments as > consistently as others here, teasing me that I often get knuckled for his > views. I am not suggesting that the culprit is probably comrade Lazola > Ndlazilwana, but I am quite sure, there is little known of me in this forum. > Of course, I am Secretary General of SASCO and I take full responsibility of > SASCO's comments and I stand by them. > > But I think it is a little unfair to insinuate any knowledge in this forum > of me. Whether or not you or others are happy about SASCO's comments about > Nzimande the past weekend nobody has a right to portray me as though I have > a reputation (good or bad) in this forum. By the way, when the DA called for > Nzimande's head late last year we said: once more signed in my name: > > *"The Minister of Higher Education – Dr Blade Nzimande – is one of the > most active, energetic and responsive ministers of the whole Zuma > government. He is probably the best minister in the Education cluster since > the dawn of democracy. Anybody that suggests otherwise is not only > opportunistic but petty.* > > * * > > *We believe that the statement attributed to the DA calling for the > resignation or removal of Dr Blade Nzimande is naked opportunism of the > worst order. Thus far, Higher Education is controlled by liberal ideas > similar to those of the DA and they cannot bear a Minister that is willing > to challenge their stranglehold on education.* > > * * > *We call on the Minister of Higher Education to relax and do his work > diligently; nothing will remove him from his position. We call on the > Minister of Higher Education to radically change the face of Higher > Education by implementing free Higher Education."* > > So much for a reputation. > > I look foward to continue to learn from the engagements in this forum with > the hope that my views and those of others will be judged on the basis of > what we have said and indeed done rather than on the sweeping statement > comrade Dominic has made about me. > > Communist Regards > > Lazola Ndamase > > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Sibusiso Mimi <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Cde VC >> >> I hope Mboyisa has taken no offense as there are no such intentions. There >> are few like him. >> >> regards, >> Sibusiso >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Dominic Tweedie < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Fine Cde Mimi but I don't know why you needed to create suspicions about >>> my good friend Cedric Mboyisa, whom I have known since he was a young junior >>> reporter on the North East Tribune, after which he went to The Citizen. Now >>> he is at the City Press. >>> >>> Many other comrades have had media dealings with Cedric and I am sure >>> they will all bear me out. This is a journalist who listens carefully and >>> does his best. He is one of the best. >>> >>> There is no evidence that Cedric made anything up here. On the contrary, >>> what we know of Lazola Ndamase from this forum tends to confirm what Cedric >>> has reported. >>> >>> Otherwise, I agree with you. >>> >>> >>> VC >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 23 March 2011 15:27, Sibusiso Mimi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm not sure what to make of this -- true, students have serious >>>> challenges facing them and impending on objectives such as access to >>>> quality >>>> education etc. That being said, none of it warrants an undisciplined and >>>> savaged attack on the SACP's general secretary. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cdes always make a mistake of confusing some journalists’ hypocrisy with >>>> real interest to their issues. Some of these journalists’ only interest is >>>> to sell papers -- therefore painting a picture of a general >>>> secretary/minister under-siege by some left leaning student bodies sells >>>> papers and is quite entertaining. And, unfortunately, this happens at the >>>> detriment of the real message from the students! Cdes must avoid being >>>> famous for wrong reasons during this time and allow themselves to be >>>> tricked >>>> into saying regrettable statements. Statements such as “the minister is an >>>> indecisive coward” and “This is the worst form of anti-communism and a >>>> crime >>>> against the sons and daughters of the working class and is a betrayal to >>>> the >>>> struggle” is very regrettable, not only that but populist in my view. When >>>> the SACP allowed blade to serve his country as a cabinet minister -- we did >>>> not also give him an ability to perform miracles. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cdes seems to find throwing insults around especially targeting elected >>>> leadership of our movement fashionable – it is not, but only entertaining >>>> to >>>> the Capitalists! A free circus which is sickening to the working class that >>>> voted our leadership in power. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Steve Peterson <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Nzimande the ‘anti-communist’ >>>>> >>>>> By Cedric Mboyisa >>>>> >>>>> Two left-leaning student bodies have torn into Higher Education >>>>> Minister Blade Nzimande, calling for his head and accusing him of >>>>> anti-communism and anti-working class behaviour. >>>>> >>>>> In a scathing attack on the South African Communist Party (SACP) boss >>>>> (Nzimande), South African Students’ Congress (Sasco) secretary-general >>>>> Lazola Ndamase charged that his department was moving at a snail’s pace to >>>>> ensure there was transformation in tertiary institutions and >>>>> implementation >>>>> of free education. >>>>> >>>>> “This is the worst form of anti-communism and a crime against the sons >>>>> and daughters of the working class and is a betrayal to the struggle,” he >>>>> said. >>>>> >>>>> Speaking to City Press, Ndamase (who is also a Young Communist League >>>>> member) said Nzimande was a “coward” with a lack of decisiveness. >>>>> >>>>> “He is not running the higher education correctly. He has not made any >>>>> fundamental changes as one would have expected from a revolutionary >>>>> communist.” >>>>> >>>>> The South African Union of Students (Saus) has called for a vote of >>>>> no-confidence in Nzimande. >>>>> >>>>> “Minister Nzimande is proving to be an obstruction to progress on >>>>> government’s goals regarding education. We will sit-in at the offices of >>>>> the >>>>> minister to show our discontent and utter disappointment,” read a >>>>> statement >>>>> by the Saus national executive committee. >>>>> >>>>> Saus and Sasco said they were ignored by Nzimande when they marched to >>>>> his Pretoria offices yesterday to complain about the lack of >>>>> implementation >>>>> of free education. >>>>> >>>>> “Despite the fact that we notified the Department of Higher Education >>>>> and Training on time, there was no one to receive our memorandum of >>>>> demands >>>>> and we had to settle for anybody we could find to accept this important >>>>> memorandum,” said Ndamase. >>>>> >>>>> Ministerial spokesperson Nqaba Nqandela said it was unfortunate that >>>>> the two student bodies had opted to go public before discussing their >>>>> concerns with Nzimande. >>>>> >>>>> “The minister’s door is always open to them. We will not be deterred. >>>>> We believe we are on track. We have had great achievements,” he added. >>>>> >>>>> SACP spokesperson Malesela Maleka said Sasco was being “mischievous”. >>>>> >>>>> “Sasco does not have a manual on what constitutes communism or not. >>>>> They cannot expect him to go there and behave like a maverick as if there >>>>> were no constraints,” he added. >>>>> >>>>> He said the real issue was that there was a concerted agenda to portray >>>>> Nzimande as an “incapable leader of the SACP”. >>>>> >>>>> A former senior Young Communist League (YCL) member from KwaZulu-Natal >>>>> said it was very clear that Nzimande could not cope with the pressure of >>>>> being simultaneously the minister and SACP boss. Debate in the alliance >>>>> has >>>>> been raging about Nzimande’s two roles. Cosatu general secretary >>>>> Zwelinzima Vavi has urged him to quit as a minister. >>>>> >>>>> The Nzimande matter has led to tensions in the SACP. >>>>> >>>>> Politburo member and former YCL chairperson David Masondo has been >>>>> suspended. Masondo is seen as close ally of ANC Youth League president >>>>> Julius Malema. >>>>> >>>>> Malema and Nzimande do not see eye-to-eye, especially on the >>>>> controversial issue of nationalisation of mines. >>>>> >>>>> The YCL has expelled Masondo allies Phindile Kunene and Patrick Makape. >>>>> Some see this as a purge of anti-Nzimande elements >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You are subscribed to the "Communist University" e-mail forum. >>>>> The group site is at >>>>> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Communist-University >>>>> The Communist University blog at http://domza.blogspot.com/ and our >>>>> wikispace web site is at http://amadlandawonye.wikispaces.com/ >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]; or e-mail >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Sibusiso Mimi >>>> Mobile: +27 (0) 760211216 >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You are subscribed. 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