I have been observing this discussion or none discussion around the speculated invite and I believe that comrades are blowing the matter out of proportion and they are exactly speaking like Media speculators. One we are told clearly that the NWC of the YL never discussed such a matter, so I dont see why a praise of Mbeki would amount into his invite. Further to this, there is nothing wrong if he is invited. I plead for this non-discussion because it reduces this forum
On Thu Jun 9th, 2011 4:56 PM EEST Klaas Nono Mabunda wrote: >Perhaps if we kept abreast with whichever changes occurred on the action and >concept insult and subsequent divorcing it to vulgar in a political context. >In the same breadth we should locate all this and its error for inviting >former president Thabo Mbeki to the National Congress of the youth wing of an >organization that nurtured him which he also led. >Are you comrades saying that differences should just last a life time, that >circumstance of those years should be given continuity even when material >conditions do not allow. >Insults in question, especially when a need arouse for utter statements to be >reduced to being insults, perhaps providing a thorough description of our >leaders is today deemed insults, what is wrong with inviting Thabo Mbeki, what >is wrong if the leadership of the ANCYL feels that he come to share his wisdom. >Are we encouraging that political preference should be allowed to cast hatred >between leaders for a lifetime, turn a blind eye on issues just to merely >avoid being called names for extending invitation. >Thabo Mbeki won't be a voting delegate to that congress but an honored guest, >which makes me wonder why is TM attending the congress an issue or be reduced >to an act to spite other leaders. >I tend to differ with statements that President Malema once went into an >insulting spree on leaders, are we proudly demonstrating our confusion and >inabilities to expantiate between being objective and insulting, is it for an >obvious thought that the intentions is to decampaign Malema for reelection at >the upcoming National Congress of the ANCYL in Gallagher Estate next week. >Why are we boldly reducing this forum to an antagonism centre on leadership. >Comrade the National Executive Committee of the ANCYL has confirmed that the >National Congress as envisaged is continuing, PGCs are furthermore making >nominations on their preferred leadership taking the ANCYL forward and so far >Malema is proved to be still preferred for continuing being a driver towards >changing the lives of young people and locating them within the economic >freedom in our lifetime. >Long live President Julius Malema. > > > >"Manhood is climbing a mountain of vertical path" > >-----Original Message----- >From: "Ntokozo Lwandle" <[email protected]> >Sender: [email protected] >Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 11:58:26 >To: <[email protected]>; NT Zwane<[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANCYL invites Mbeki to congress > >Correct Zwane, cadres we must learn to defend the mmovement and its principles >instead of individuals. > > >On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 00:17:54 +0200 "NT Zwane" <[email protected]> wrote > >> Cde Songezo >> >> Leadership if my memory serves me well it was outside court when >> Malema said "the problem in this country is Thabo Mbeki and the ANC >> must recall him". The leadership of the ANC kept quite. He even called >> him a boy, how can you call someone as old as TM a boy, this led to >> TM's mother responding and the ANC was quite. When he calls Blade a >> yellow communist must we now call Malema names no I don’t think so. In >> an interview on SAFM it was the Naye Luphondwana show Julius asked >> Bhuti why when he was insulting other elders in the MDM Bhuti agreed >> with him, why is he now defending Blade, this double standards are >> irritating some of us because we can think out of the box. >> >> When Malema insulted Naledi Pandor in TUT no one said anything. >> >> When Malema insulted Zola Skweyiya no one said anything. >> >> Chief i have just dealt with specifics. >> >> Amandla >> >> Zwane >> >> >> >> >> Quoting "songezo madyibhi" <[email protected]>: >> >> > >> > Zwane must be specific, what insults did Malema give to Mbeki which >> > Zuma, Blade >> > and others didnt stop? At that time until now we saw Mbeki abusing power >> > and >> > continuously undermining the ANC and Malema was emphasising the >> > decision of the >> > ANC to recall Mbeki. If at all ANCYL invited Mbeki to congress, that >> > invite is >> > not honest though can not be declared to be wrong. It is just a strategy by >> > Malema to create impression that he can work with Mbeki or whoever >> > loves Mbeki >> > to challenge anyone in the ANC. >> > >> >____________________________________________________________ >> > South Africas premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za >> > >> > For super low premiums, click here http://www.dialdirect.co.za/?vdn=15828 >> > >> > >> > -- >> > You are subscribed. 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