Cde Klaas
Cde Klaas Save that non-sense for political science students, and Cde
Luzuko when the VC post something in this forum as he did now and I
have a view about it I must not comment, whats the rationale behind
this forum maybe you can assist me so that I stop making the same
mistake. We are mebers of the Ancyl and Ycl equally so if theres a
post about one of our structures here in this forum then I dont think
its wrong for me to raise my view or what.
As we say in COSAS Each one Teach one.
Quoting "Luzuko Buku" <[email protected]>:
I have been observing this discussion or none
discussion around the speculated invite and I believe
that comrades are blowing the matter out of
proportion and they are exactly speaking like Media
speculators. One we are told clearly that the NWC of the
YL never discussed such a matter, so I dont see why a praise
of Mbeki would amount into his invite. Further to this,
there is nothing wrong if he is invited. I plead for this
non-discussion because it reduces this forum
On Thu Jun 9th, 2011 4:56 PM EEST Klaas Nono Mabunda wrote:
Perhaps if we kept abreast with whichever changes occurred on the
action and concept insult and subsequent divorcing it to vulgar in
a political context.
In the same breadth we should locate all this and its error for
inviting former president Thabo Mbeki to the National Congress of
the youth wing of an organization that nurtured him which he also
led.
Are you comrades saying that differences should just last a life
time, that circumstance of those years should be given continuity
even when material conditions do not allow.
Insults in question, especially when a need arouse for utter
statements to be reduced to being insults, perhaps providing a
thorough description of our leaders is today deemed insults, what
is wrong with inviting Thabo Mbeki, what is wrong if the leadership
of the ANCYL feels that he come to share his wisdom.
Are we encouraging that political preference should be allowed to
cast hatred between leaders for a lifetime, turn a blind eye on
issues just to merely avoid being called names for extending
invitation.
Thabo Mbeki won't be a voting delegate to that congress but an
honored guest, which makes me wonder why is TM attending the
congress an issue or be reduced to an act to spite other leaders.
I tend to differ with statements that President Malema once went
into an insulting spree on leaders, are we proudly demonstrating
our confusion and inabilities to expantiate between being objective
and insulting, is it for an obvious thought that the intentions is
to decampaign Malema for reelection at the upcoming National
Congress of the ANCYL in Gallagher Estate next week.
Why are we boldly reducing this forum to an antagonism centre on leadership.
Comrade the National Executive Committee of the ANCYL has confirmed
that the National Congress as envisaged is continuing, PGCs are
furthermore making nominations on their preferred leadership taking
the ANCYL forward and so far Malema is proved to be still preferred
for continuing being a driver towards changing the lives of young
people and locating them within the economic freedom in our lifetime.
Long live President Julius Malema.
"Manhood is climbing a mountain of vertical path"
-----Original Message-----
From: "Ntokozo Lwandle" <[email protected]>
Sender: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 11:58:26
To: <[email protected]>; NT Zwane<[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANCYL invites Mbeki to congress
Correct Zwane, cadres we must learn to defend the mmovement and its
principles
instead of individuals.
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 00:17:54 +0200 "NT Zwane" <[email protected]> wrote
Cde Songezo
Leadership if my memory serves me well it was outside court when
Malema said "the problem in this country is Thabo Mbeki and the ANC
must recall him". The leadership of the ANC kept quite. He even called
him a boy, how can you call someone as old as TM a boy, this led to
TM's mother responding and the ANC was quite. When he calls Blade a
yellow communist must we now call Malema names no I don't think so. In
an interview on SAFM it was the Naye Luphondwana show Julius asked
Bhuti why when he was insulting other elders in the MDM Bhuti agreed
with him, why is he now defending Blade, this double standards are
irritating some of us because we can think out of the box.
When Malema insulted Naledi Pandor in TUT no one said anything.
When Malema insulted Zola Skweyiya no one said anything.
Chief i have just dealt with specifics.
Amandla
Zwane
Quoting "songezo madyibhi" <[email protected]>:
>
> Zwane must be specific, what insults did Malema give to Mbeki which
> Zuma, Blade
> and others didnt stop? At that time until now we saw Mbeki abusing power
> and
> continuously undermining the ANC and Malema was emphasising the
> decision of the
> ANC to recall Mbeki. If at all ANCYL invited Mbeki to congress, that
> invite is
> not honest though can not be declared to be wrong. It is just a
strategy by
> Malema to create impression that he can work with Mbeki or whoever
> loves Mbeki
> to challenge anyone in the ANC.
>
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