Dear Comrade, Since I am still on line, having been keen to respond to Cde NUMSA President, I have seen your message.
Please comrade, I think you should try to read and follow that thread, starting with Julius Malema's "Hlomelang" article. You are asking to be armed with a dictionary definition of socialism and communism, but such dictionary knowledge is never strong enough for the test of real life. You would be better advised to read the controversies of the day, and of the past, when these questions had material and immediate political content. Such is the case with the "nationalisation" debate called for by Julius Malema, which even if Malema would prefer otherwise, must proceed to the questions of socialism and communism. If you read what I have written this morning, you may notice that I have taken socialism to mean "working class hegemony in all major sites of power", which we might otherwise call the dictatorship of the proletariat, or the class rule of the workers. This is a good enough definition of socialism for our purposes. It is the kind of socialism that we are working for today. Otherwise, socialism is a broad term. In the Communist Manifesto there is a section describing various sorts of "socialism" that are not what we want. You can read it at http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch03.htm . Communism means the self-managed society without class divisions and without a supervising State. The socialism that establishes working-class power will not by that fact alone abolish capitalism and the capitalist class that practices capitalism. The capitalist class, and the working class, will continue to exist until both disappear together with the class struggle and the state, in the process referred to in the literature as "the withering away of the state". After that there will be no classes and no State, and that will be communism. My advice is that you stay with the real discussions and avoid discussions that are not more-or-less directly connected to reality. VC On 16 July 2011 09:17, Nathi <[email protected]> wrote: > Greetings cmds I recently joined the YCL. Please assist me, what is the > difference between socialism and communism? You assistance would very much > be appreciated. > > Sotobe > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > > -- > You are subscribed. This footer can help you. > Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to > this message. > You can visit the group WEB SITE at > http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery > options, pages, files and membership. > To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected]. > You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to > put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to > this address (repeat): [email protected] . > -- The Communist University *Blog* is at: *http://domza.blogspot.com/*<http://domza.blogspot.com/> *Mail Subscription*: *http://groups.google.com/group/Communist-University/*<http://groups.google.com/group/Communist-University/> CU Site for *downloads*: *https://sites.google.com/site/communistuniversity/ * The *CU Africa* blog is at: *http://cuafrica.blogspot.com/* (Subscribe *here<http://groups.google.com/group/CUAfrica> *) The *SADTU* PolEd blog is: *http://sadtu-pol-ed.blogspot.com/* (Subscribe * here <http://groups.google.com/group/sadtu-political-education-forum>*) The *old CU site* is: http://amadlandawonye.wikispaces.com/ Subscription/unsubscribing *difficulties*? Mail *[email protected]* -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [email protected] .
