Hi Pietro I wouldn't interpret Joshuas move as you do. It's just that the url-pages tended to become very big. My firefox asked me constantly about "a script is slowing down..." when I was browsing url-pages. I consider Joshuas move as good.
Then, on the other hand, if you depend on that data then you are screenscraping the site which is forbidden by robots.txt anyway.. I also have got a site that depends on delicious data (deli.ckoma.net/stats, delicious statistics) and have mailed with delicious about the use of the data. They are generally open to give away data for academic research so I think there will be a way to have a "cooperation" with delicious. greets Philipp Keller Am Donnerstag, den 09.03.2006, 16:57 -0800 schrieb Pietro Speroni di Fenizio: > This decision will kill cloudalicious and any > possibility to have any external search. > Cloudalicious is the number one program used by people > who are making academic research on delicious and > social bookmarking web sites. > > Without it all this line of reseach is gone, and since > you are not interested is offering this info via API > (I asked for it at least 5 times, and I was always > ignored) what people will do is make similar search > using smaller web sites (the clones). I have contacted > the admin from some of those sites and, at least 2, > are very happy to provide this info openly. > > Sorry, Joshua, but this is exactly the kind of > decision that I could see a Yahoo service taking, and > the reason why I was so weary about del. being bought. > It is shortsighted. Very. > > Just add it at the end. Put it with a css hide > command. Put it with an API (that would be perfect and > would give a big kick to all the services that are > using delicious, plus cutting on bandwidth for all the > sites that are using it). But do make it available. > > And you know what, those service are important to make > delicious big as much as the users that are inside. > Services like cloudalicious, my delicious mind map, > vox delicii, and on and on, all the ones from > http://pchere.blogspot.com/2005/02/absolutely-delicious-complete-tool.html > are what is really making this service stand out. > There are about 100 of those right now. How many can > the clones count? 5? 20? > > Why do you think I am still here after I ranted on my > blog at the acquisition that I was leaving. > > Also, you never gave a damn about having the site > being pretty, and that was what made your site useful. > You had all the tags for each user; all the tags for > each url. All the info, there, directly, no prob. Of > course it does not look nice. It looks useful. > > You have read my entries on tag cloud. You have seen > how this data is important. > > If you were using that data well to make the relaed > item, ok. Delicious would be a well done site, closed, > but ok. Like Amazon. I wouldn't agree, I wouldn't be > part of it, but I would respect the decision, again, > like Amazon. > > But the "relevant site" function does not use anything > that even resembles a metric. And now you take off > from the blogsphere the possibility for people to > build a better service. How could that be a good > decision? > > /rant > > Pietro > > > Ok, it's 2 am, here. goodnight to all the list. > --- Joshua Schachter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Mostly because it seems like infoclutter and not > > actually useful to > > people, especially when there are lots of bookmarks > > of the url. > > Additionally the file transfered is quite large. > > > > I really don't get the feeling that the view as > > displayed before was > > particularly useful to most users. > > > > I'm considering a different view when there is a > > lower number of > > bookmarks of the url itself. > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
