Andy, (1) You don't have to "shut up". I enjoy your contributions to the list [:-) :-)].
(2) The clever garnome folks include a "bootstrap" directory in their GAR framework, which among other things contains firefox. So..., I you kick off the GAR process without any prior tinkering, GAR will build and install firefox as a dependency if it cannot find a firefox development environment that it likes. -Joseph =========================================================================== On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 15:46, Andrew Zschetzsche wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Regarding Gnome 2.10 using Firefox, i think your best bet would be > waiting until YDL is using whatever Fedora version is using Gnome 2.x > with Firefox. Or at least until their testing packages of Firefox > become stable with version 4 (I'm totally guessing) AND it doesn't > squash my wee little head OR cause hassles with installing into YDL. > I'm guessing you're gonna get the same results using Mozilla as with > Firefox, as I'm sure Firefox is essentially a small GUI & stuff around > the same Gecko rendering engine. Ok, I'll shut up now. :) > > As for the flame regarding KDE and Gnome, I totally agree with the fact > that It's a choice through and through. But because of the large usage > of their development libraries, you kind-of need to have both. For > instance, I prefer Gnome. Most things I use are Gnome based. But I > also use Kdar, which requires KDE. Just be thankful that YDL comes > with both (I heard a major distro dropped one from their distro, but I > can't remember details.) and you're just a "switchdesk gnome" or > "switchdesk kde" or "yum install switchdesk-gui" away from choosing > your default. And if you can't stand either, more choices are on the > horizon. WindowMaker is already in YDL Extras Testing branch, and XFCE > 4.2 is on my list of future submissions to the Extras. > > Ok, I'll shut up again :) > > - --Andy > > > On Apr 7, 2005, at 12:43 PM, Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D. wrote: > > > *FLAME OFF* > > > > Be nice... [:-)] > > > > Life is about choices. You may configure whatever desktop suits your > > fancy. There are many desktops to choose from. GNOME and KDE are only > > two of the many choices. > > > > For what it's worth... > > As reported earlier, I have successfully built KDE-3.4 using konstruct, > > the GAR framework for KDE. > > > > http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.4.php > > > > KDE-3.4 is a large, complex desktop with lots of interesting toys. If > > there is to be a YDL-4.0.2 release before YDL-5.0 is released, I would > > like to see the version of KDE updated to 3.4. > > > > -Joseph > > > > ======================================================================= > > ======= > > > > > > On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 13:27, Richard June wrote: > >> *FLAME ON* > >> Well, I'm sure we all know that KDE is a much better choice for an > >> environment > >> then GNOME, especially if you want to be able to set defaults and/or > >> restrict > >> access to things. :-) > >> > >> On Thursday 07 April 2005 09:31 am, Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D. wrote: > >>> NBD... Let me put it into perspective: It is not a show stopper. > >>> > >>> GNOME-2.10.0.x can be configured to build against mozilla rather than > >>> firefox. However..., the gnomes [those wee folk that create the GNOME > >>> desktop ???] have moved on to firefox. > >>> > >>> -Joseph > >>> > >>> ===================================================================== > >>> = > >>> > >>> On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 10:19, Andrew Zschetzsche wrote: > >>>> Ahh, I have been corrected. ;) > >>>> > >>>> I'd have to try a RPM from Fedora's 3.90 testing build, as that has > >>>> Gnome 2.10 beta. If that doesn't work, I'm out; I'd have no idea > >>>> as to > >>>> what goes where. > >>>> > >>>> --Andy > >>>> > >>>> On Apr 7, 2005, at 8:56 AM, Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D. wrote: > >>>>> Answer: > >>>>> > >>>>> rpm -ql mozilla-devel > >>>>> > >>>>> If you wish to build any other application that is based upon > >>>>> firefox, > >>>>> e.g. epiphany-1.6, you will need the firefox equivalents of the > >>>>> include > >>>>> files, libraries, etc. listed above. The current "stable" branch of > >>>>> GNOME, 2.10.0.x, uses now uses firefox rather than mozilla. > >>>>> > >>>>> The mozilla install on YDL contains: > >>>>> > >>>>> mozilla-1.7.3-2.ydl.1 > >>>>> mozilla-chat-1.7.3-2.ydl.1 > >>>>> mozilla-devel-1.7.3-2.ydl.1 > >>>>> mozilla-dom-inspector-1.7.3-2.ydl.1 > >>>>> mozilla-js-debugger-1.7.3-2.ydl.1 > >>>>> mozilla-mail-1.7.3-2.ydl.1 > >>>>> mozilla-nspr-1.7.3-2.ydl.1 > >>>>> mozilla-nspr-devel-1.7.3-2.ydl.1 > >>>>> mozilla-nss-1.7.3-2.ydl.1 > >>>>> mozilla-nss-devel-1.7.3-2.ydl.1 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> You should carefully review this list and decide which of these are > >>>>> relevant to creating a developer environment for firefox. > >>>>> > >>>>> -Joseph > >>>>> > >>>>> =================================================================== > >>>>> ==== > >>>>> =========== > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 01:32, Richard June wrote: > >>>>>> On Wednesday 06 April 2005 08:27, Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D. wrote: > >>>>>>> It would be useful if there were also a firefox-devel, just like > >>>>>>> mozilla-devel. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Uhm, what would you want in firefox-devel? > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> joseph_sacco[at]comcast[dot]net > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> yellowdog-general mailing list > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog- > >>>>> general > >>>>> HINT: to Google archives, try '<keywords> > >>>>> site:terrasoftsolutions.com' > >> _______________________________________________ > >> yellowdog-general mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > >> HINT: to Google archives, try '<keywords> > >> site:terrasoftsolutions.com' > > -- > > joseph_sacco[at]comcast[dot]net > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yellowdog-general mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > > HINT: to Google archives, try '<keywords> site:terrasoftsolutions.com' > > > - -- > Andrew Zschetzsche > University of Minnesota, Morris > zsche004 at morris.umn.edu > aim: zsche004 > msn: zsche004 at mrs.umn.edu > > America's Best Public Liberal Arts College. > > - --The best answer to a problem with multiple solutions is often the > simplest one. > > "One of the best things you can do to improve your life is to quit" > -- Actual pull quote from the University Register > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFCVY4WoYh+S0u6OTARAhU6AKCj1vBJzL2PLsi3fxSR0FGp3sRcbACggE0V > 5jiODZBE78mrhNBizvlhS+w= > =omag > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-general mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > HINT: to Google archives, try '<keywords> site:terrasoftsolutions.com' -- joseph_sacco[at]comcast[dot]net _______________________________________________ yellowdog-general mailing list [email protected] http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general HINT: to Google archives, try '<keywords> site:terrasoftsolutions.com'
