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On Apr 7, 2005, at 3:00 PM, Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D. wrote:
Andy,
(1) You don't have to "shut up". I enjoy your contributions to the list [:-) :-)].
Thanks. I was just kidding. Sometimes I ramble so much, and I usually text is a lousy means of transporting sarcasm ;) . There, short and sweet. :)
(2) The clever garnome folks include a "bootstrap" directory in their
GAR framework, which among other things contains firefox. So..., I you
kick off the GAR process without any prior tinkering, GAR will build
and install firefox as a dependency if it cannot find a firefox
development environment that it likes.
Well, it sounds like you had nothing to worry about. Anyways, Thanks, your comment is noted for the future.
Much better this time, I think :)
- --Andy
- -- Andrew Zschetzsche
Regarding Gnome 2.10 using Firefox, i think your best bet would be waiting until YDL is using whatever Fedora version is using Gnome 2.x with Firefox. Or at least until their testing packages of Firefox become stable with version 4 (I'm totally guessing) AND it doesn't squash my wee little head OR cause hassles with installing into YDL. I'm guessing you're gonna get the same results using Mozilla as with Firefox, as I'm sure Firefox is essentially a small GUI & stuff around the same Gecko rendering engine. Ok, I'll shut up now. :)
As for the flame regarding KDE and Gnome, I totally agree with the fact
that It's a choice through and through. But because of the large usage
of their development libraries, you kind-of need to have both. For
instance, I prefer Gnome. Most things I use are Gnome based. But I
also use Kdar, which requires KDE. Just be thankful that YDL comes
with both (I heard a major distro dropped one from their distro, but I
can't remember details.) and you're just a "switchdesk gnome" or
"switchdesk kde" or "yum install switchdesk-gui" away from choosing
your default. And if you can't stand either, more choices are on the
horizon. WindowMaker is already in YDL Extras Testing branch, and XFCE
4.2 is on my list of future submissions to the Extras.
Ok, I'll shut up again :)
- --Andy
On Apr 7, 2005, at 12:43 PM, Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D. wrote:
*FLAME OFF*
Be nice... [:-)]
Life is about choices. You may configure whatever desktop suits your
fancy. There are many desktops to choose from. GNOME and KDE are only
two of the many choices.
For what it's worth...
As reported earlier, I have successfully built KDE-3.4 using konstruct,
the GAR framework for KDE.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.4.php
KDE-3.4 is a large, complex desktop with lots of interesting toys. If
there is to be a YDL-4.0.2 release before YDL-5.0 is released, I would
like to see the version of KDE updated to 3.4.
-Joseph
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On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 13:27, Richard June wrote:*FLAME ON* Well, I'm sure we all know that KDE is a much better choice for an environment then GNOME, especially if you want to be able to set defaults and/or restrict access to things. :-)
On Thursday 07 April 2005 09:31 am, Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D. wrote:_______________________________________________NBD... Let me put it into perspective: It is not a show stopper.
GNOME-2.10.0.x can be configured to build against mozilla rather than
firefox. However..., the gnomes [those wee folk that create the GNOME
desktop ???] have moved on to firefox.
-Joseph
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On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 10:19, Andrew Zschetzsche wrote:Ahh, I have been corrected. ;)
I'd have to try a RPM from Fedora's 3.90 testing build, as that has
Gnome 2.10 beta. If that doesn't work, I'm out; I'd have no idea
as to
what goes where.
--Andy
On Apr 7, 2005, at 8:56 AM, Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D. wrote:Answer:
rpm -ql mozilla-devel
If you wish to build any other application that is based upon
firefox,
e.g. epiphany-1.6, you will need the firefox equivalents of the
include
files, libraries, etc. listed above. The current "stable" branch of
GNOME, 2.10.0.x, uses now uses firefox rather than mozilla.
The mozilla install on YDL contains:
mozilla-1.7.3-2.ydl.1 mozilla-chat-1.7.3-2.ydl.1 mozilla-devel-1.7.3-2.ydl.1 mozilla-dom-inspector-1.7.3-2.ydl.1 mozilla-js-debugger-1.7.3-2.ydl.1 mozilla-mail-1.7.3-2.ydl.1 mozilla-nspr-1.7.3-2.ydl.1 mozilla-nspr-devel-1.7.3-2.ydl.1 mozilla-nss-1.7.3-2.ydl.1 mozilla-nss-devel-1.7.3-2.ydl.1
You should carefully review this list and decide which of these are
relevant to creating a developer environment for firefox.
-Joseph
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On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 01:32, Richard June wrote:On Wednesday 06 April 2005 08:27, Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D. wrote:It would be useful if there were also a firefox-devel, just like
mozilla-devel.
Uhm, what would you want in firefox-devel?
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