That wikipedia thing is VERY cool!

It would be great if we could pool more knowledge into it.

I'm new to using it though.


-Doug



--- In zbmethod@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I just tidyed it up for you, looks nicer now :)
> 
> Sorry if I'm benig pushy about you putting stuff here, but I want a
> success :)
> 
> ~Thom
> 
> --- In zbmethod@yahoogroups.com, Richard Patterson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I played around with it, but not enough to figure out
> > much.  I did put in the categories that I thought most
> > appropriate for the main zb research page.  We can
> > expand on it of course.
> > 
> > -Richard
> > 
> > --- thomkirjava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Use the WikiCube! That's what it's there for.
> > > 
> > > Post whatever you like and I'll neaten it up and
> > > divide it into
> > > certain sections.
> > > 
> > > Easy to change, anyone can edit it. Perfect :) Easy
> > > to upload images,
> > > etc, etc.
> > > 
> > >
> >
> http://www.snkenjoi.com/wikicube/mediawiki-1.5.3/index.php?
title=ZB_Research
> > > 
> > > There's a link to get you started.
> > > 
> > > Shout me if you get problems :)
> > > 
> > > ~Thom
> > > 
> > > --- In zbmethod@yahoogroups.com, Gilles van den
> > > Peereboom
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I agree, I proposed a possible location but it
> > > doesn't look like many
> > > > people like it.
> > > > And we need something more designed than just txt
> > > documents in the
> > > file section.
> > > > Webspace is not the problem, what we need is a
> > > powerful interface that
> > > > fits our needs.
> > > > 
> > > > Gilles.
> > > > 
> > > > 2005/12/20, Richard Patterson
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > >  Maybe I'm beating a dead dog here, but I
> > > believe
> > > > >  starting an orginizational effort with
> > > scattering
> > > > >  everyones results among multiple folders is a
> > > bad
> > > > >  idea.  It is key to start off on the right foot
> > > here.
> > > > >  When everyone realizes this scattered approach
> > > isn't
> > > > >  beneficial, it will take even longer to
> > > correct.
> > > > >
> > > > >  The importance of a central location for all
> > > results
> > > > >  (raw and optimized) is vital.  Instead of
> > > looking for
> > > > >  algs right now we should be looking for
> > > webspace; as
> > > > >  well as people who are willing to receive, sort
> > > > >  through, and post results that are sent in. 
> > > Please
> > > > >  trust me on this!
> > > > >
> > > > >  -Richard
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  --- Doug Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  > I did a full pass on the U2 cases today on my
> > > > >  > fastest computer. Could
> > > > >  > someone look at those and perhaps see if the
> > > ones
> > > > >  > (half) Chris posted
> > > > >  > on his site are among them... or perhaps
> > > better
> > > > >  > ones.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > This was to benchmark my computer setup.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > It took about 8 hours... I had a second
> > > computer
> > > > >  > also do the same run
> > > > >  > to double-check the results (sort of
> > > unnecessary).
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > I posted the results in the files section of
> > > this
> > > > >  > group. I think each
> > > > >  > of you should create a folder with your name
> > > when
> > > > >  > you post data like
> > > > >  > this. I don't think we'll run out of room
> > > here....
> > > > >  > it's all text files.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > I also posted the 5EO/5EP algs sets...
> > > something
> > > > >  > Mike said he was
> > > > >  > interested in. Have a look if you're curious.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > I have 3 fairly powerful computers in my
> > > apartment
> > > > >  > (1 seems to beep a
> > > > >  > lot when overheated though)... I can spend
> > > about 10
> > > > >  > hrs (so 1 day) to
> > > > >  > do 3 COLL cases.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > For the purposes of generating algs, I think
> > > > >  > inverses should be
> > > > >  > counted separately, mirrors together, and
> > > PLLs
> > > > >  > skipped (obviously).
> > > > >  > This yields 29 cases by my rough count. (5 T,
> > > 5 U, 4
> > > > >  > L, 6 S, 5 Pi, 4 H)
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > Chris has 6.5 of these done. Now that I went
> > > through
> > > > >  > U2 in it's
> > > > >  > entirety, that leaves only 22 COLLs. I should
> > > be
> > > > >  > able to do this in
> > > > >  > about 11 days. (Keep one computer free for my
> > > gaming
> > > > >  > needs :).)
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > This is a "quick and dirty double pass," I
> > > run them
> > > > >  > all FTM optimized
> > > > >  > with 777 and 431 masking. 431 is many times
> > > faster
> > > > >  > than 777 it turns
> > > > >  > out.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > Once I take the 16 brand new Dells out of
> > > their
> > > > >  > boxes, set them up and
> > > > >  > run have them running ACube... I'm thinking
> > > 2.5
> > > > >  > days, or 2 days based
> > > > >  > on what I'll already have completed.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > By getting through all this so fast, I can go
> > > back
> > > > >  > though at a latter
> > > > >  > time to work on specific ones, for FUR-type
> > > or
> > > > >  > various sub-opt finds.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > I've already started churning out the U3/U4
> > > algs on
> > > > >  > my 2 fastest
> > > > >  > computers. I estimate being 25% done with
> > > this COLL.
> > > > >  > Someone start on
> > > > >  > the L-Orientation (minus no CP) if you want
> > > to join
> > > > >  > in on my effort. I
> > > > >  > hope you guys are satisfied that me and Chris
> > > have
> > > > >  > the U-Orientation
> > > > >  > covered.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > At the end of this "first quick pass", I'll
> > > also do
> > > > >  > on the T-
> > > > >  > Orientations and "no CP ones" just for
> > > completeness.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > -Doug
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >
> > > > >
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