Thanks for the advice. I'm trying to practice Zen myself. 

----- Original Message ----
From: Bill Smart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 5:06:17 AM
Subject: [Zen] Re: beginning again

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "cid830" <summitjags@ ...> wrote:
> what are the precepts?

Knowledge of Buddhist Precepts, Refuges, etc..., are not a pre-requiste 
for practicing zen. In fact in most cases they are, as is all 
knowledge, a hindrance.

The only thing necessary to practice zen, if that is your interest, is 
to sit - meaning do zazen. Pacticing zazen clears your mind of all 
intellectual and emotional clutter, including concepts such as 
precepts, refuges, right:wrong, I:you, beginner:sensei, etc...

Forget about all the other things you have read or been taught. Just 
sit. That's enough. Anything else is too much...Bill!

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