I am very new to this group.  I do take Zen seriously.  Maybe too 
seriously!  I believe much in the practice, although I am far from a 
good practitioner.  I welcome your knowledge, for my ignorance is 
profound, but I want to encourage newcomers to follow their own path. 
And to Al... I feel you have mocked the practice in prior postings, 
if I am wrong, I do apologize.

Thank You,  Chris

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Smart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recently made some postings that caused some participants 
> unpleasantness.  Sometimes that's okay, and I certainly have been 
> know to purposely rattle a few cages, but in these recent postings 
> that was not my intent.  So...I would like to clarify my past and 
> future postings as follows:
> I do not own this forum, so cannot exclude anyone.  For the most 
> I wouldn't want to exclude anyone, with the possible exception of 
> those that blatantly post marketing material.  Al, the forum 
> moderator, can exclude participants, but I have not known of a case 
> in the past 3 or 4 years that he has done so.
> We all participate in this forum voluntarily.  Some particpate very 
> seriously, some jokingly.  Some, like me, participate sometimes 
> seriously, and sometimes jokingly.  I offer no apologies for this.
> Most importantly, you should not depend on this forum for spritual 
> other advice.  Do not believe everything you read here, or anywhere 
> for that matter.
> Believe in youself.  Just sit.  If you're lucky enough to have 
> a good teacher or group with which to participate, beleive in them 
> with all your heart.  They will help you in your practice.    
> Enlightenment is a product of the desire of the student, not the 
> skill of the teacher.  A earnest teacher cannot lead a false 
> to enlightenment.  On the other hand a earnest student can become 
> enlighted under a false teacher; or without a teacher at all.
> Just sit.
> ...Bill!

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