Bill,

 

You say:

 

"I also beleive, as you do, that zen and Buddhism are not the same. I 
beleive Buddhism is a religion and is a sub-set of zen, and so are 
most other religions -"

 

I  thought Zen, including Soto, Rinzai and Obaku,  are part of the Mahayana
school of Buddhism and a direct outgrowth of the Chinese Chan, which was
brought to China by Bodhidharma, an Indian Buddhist monk.

 

What has led you to conclude the above?

 

Chuck

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