Bill,
You say: "I also beleive, as you do, that zen and Buddhism are not the same. I beleive Buddhism is a religion and is a sub-set of zen, and so are most other religions -" I thought Zen, including Soto, Rinzai and Obaku, are part of the Mahayana school of Buddhism and a direct outgrowth of the Chinese Chan, which was brought to China by Bodhidharma, an Indian Buddhist monk. What has led you to conclude the above? Chuck
