Anthony, Nice try, but no cigar.
Zen has no goals…so I am not saying that the "...goal of zen is to reach ‘just this’ [sic], instead of just eating and sleeping". When you are eating, eating is Just THIS! When you are sleeping, sleeping is Just THIS! …Bill! From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony Wu Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 3:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Zen] Positive neural changes in the brain due to meditation? Bill, Bad example. A better one is to compare zazen to eating your flight lice. It involves going to a restaurant and spend your easily earned Thai Baht. In other words, it requires dualistic effort at least in the beginning. Before you enjoy the Kau Pad Gong. So you are saying that the goal of zen is to reach 'just this', instead of just eating and sleeping. Anthony --- On Sun, 24/10/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Zen] Positive neural changes in the brain due to meditation? To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, 24 October, 2010, 11:04 AM Anthony, When you breathe do you have a goal? Is it to oxygenate your blood? You just breathe, so just BE. Don’t over-think things. …Bill! From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony Wu Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 6:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Zen] Positive neural changes in the brain due to meditation? Bill, I am surprised in the same way as ED is. When you practice zen everyday, you must have a 'goal'. When you say it is just this, then the goal is 'just this'. You can also say zen has a goal of no goal. Otherwise, why don't you just sleep? Anthony --- On Sat, 23/10/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Zen] Positive neural changes in the brain due to meditation? To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, 23 October, 2010, 5:49 PM Ed, I’m not sure what else there is to say. Zen practice is just zen practice. It’s not done to achieve or change anything. Everything is perfect just the way it is. This statement seemed to surprise you. What goal(s) do you think zen practice might have? …Bill! From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ED Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 10:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Zen] Positive neural changes in the brain due to meditation? Bill, Can you say a little more about this matter? --ED --- In [email protected], <billsm...@...> wrote: > > Zen practice has no goals. > Bill! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5556 (20101022) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5556 (20101022) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5556 (20101022) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5556 (20101022) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5556 (20101022) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5558 (20101023) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5558 (20101023) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5558 (20101023) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5560 (20101024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
