Anthony:
 
The Chinese say doesn't sound to me with the same meaning as the rose.  
 
A rose is a very beautiful flower.  There are varieties of them.  I remember 
them from childhood sprouting with the first heat and alone summer season 
those big  with very big thick thurns and really nice strong fresh 
fragance.  Nothing to do with the roses that are sold in the shops much 
smaller, with small thurns and no much fragance but with a tidy appearence 
all of them the same like a photocopy.   A bit like those pretty barbies girls 
and boys who are like a  artificial fabrication of beauty all them wearing the 
same boredom.   Those very big roses with thick thorns coming from planted a 
centenary ago...wow, what a beauty and wild fragance in them!.  My hands used 
to bleed when trying to take them as if any other flower with no thorns.  Yet, 
I was never put off by their thorns. When I was a child I was fascinated by 
these kind of roses.  I like them the same when they were very little and the 
same when they opened and fall
 on their petals.  Their big thorns was part of their beauty. Then,  I learnt 
how to hold with delicaciy their head between my two hands and inhalate all 
their profum inside my lungs.  And I noticed how much they like me to this to 
them very much.  Exchanging the breath with their breath.  These days when in 
my little flat a plant gets sad having learnt from the roses, I take the pot 
put in the middle and I cheer up them and heal by breathing very softly over 
them.  It was due to the roses with big thorns I learnt this. 
 
If you don't like roses because of its big thorns you won't ever had an 
interesting woman in your life and instead a pretty doll to whom have sex.
 
Mayka
 
 
 
 
--- On Sun, 7/11/10, Anthony Wu <wu...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:


From: Anthony Wu <wu...@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 7 November, 2010, 6:09


  








Mayka,
 
The Chinese version is: 'if you don't get into a tiger's den, how do you get a 
tiger cub'. I don't want a tiger cub, so there is no need to risk a tiger's den.
 
Anthony

--- On Sun, 7/11/10, Maria Lopez <flordel...@btinternet.com> wrote:


From: Maria Lopez <flordel...@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 7 November, 2010, 9:50 AM


  






Hey Anthony:
 
The lady is right; how will you ever know the rose if you fear the thorns?
 
Mayka

--- On Sun, 7/11/10, Kristy McClain <healthypl...@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Kristy McClain <healthypl...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 7 November, 2010, 0:05


  






Anthony,
 
So you're gonna wuss-out. How will you ever know the rose if you fear the 
thorns?
 
As for Bill-- (wow)  I didn't know he was on the market. What do those widows 
think about his menagerie of kids? After all-- the man does have baggage, and 
I'm not talking tea-bagging here. In terms of decor-- forget the Italians. You 
know what they say-- "When in Rome...".  (Always go  to the source). k


--- On Sat, 11/6/10, Anthony Wu <wu...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:


From: Anthony Wu <wu...@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 6, 2010, 4:04 PM


  






Kristy,
 
Tigress? No, no. She would 'eat my heart out'. A wild fox shouldn't be too bad.
 
As for Bill, he is busy defending himself against a 'oneness' proposal from 
widow ghosts in Thailand. No time to talk.
 
It is time for the Tantric to stop playing with Buddhism and turn their temples 
into nice orgyhouses. I would help them find a good Italian internal designer 
for that.
 
Anthony

--- On Sat, 6/11/10, Kristy McClain <healthypl...@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Kristy McClain <healthypl...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 6 November, 2010, 11:15 AM


  






*chuckles*
 
Well then-- I dare say that you have a homework assignment this weekend. Please 
don't spare us any of the details Monday morning.
 
Is it comparable with buddhism? I can offer that Bill IS correct on this point 
because it truly is 'just this'!  A true experience of universal one-ness, with 
no need for ego, intellect or thought of any kind. I invite you to seek your 
tantric tigress and let the flow of energy be your guide.  Enjoy ;)  k
 


--- On Fri, 11/5/10, Anthony Wu <wu...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:


From: Anthony Wu <wu...@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 5, 2010, 9:02 PM


  





Kristy,

I haven't had a mind blowing experience for a long time, but I will search in 
my memory to locate it. 

My curiosity on Tantrism in regard to sex remains. Is it compatible with 
Buddhism?

Anthony

--- On Sat, 6/11/10, Kristy McClain <healthypl...@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Kristy McClain <healthypl...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 6 November, 2010, 9:58 AM


  






 
Anthony;)
 
One experience of truly mind-blowing sex can tell you this.  Enjoy your 
weekend...K
 
 
 
......" they shed light on the relationship with lust and spiritualism.
 
I am curious why Tantrism attaches so much significance to that.
 
Anthony


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