JODY,

Yes, as is said in the American vernacular about life: 'There's no free
lunch.'

And the Buddha in his Teachings continually underscores the existential
nature of suffering.

--ED



--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <j...@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Mayka,
>
> Yes, commercially grown roses are like photto copies. they have no
smell
> too.
>
> I love home grown roses and the thorns are just part of them.
>
> JODY


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