Anthony,
I don’t know. That’s a good question. All I know is the list is correct each day after I update it. …Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Wu Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 6:14 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas Bill, There is a contradiction here. If something is on your permanence list on a certain day. The next day, it disappears. Is that item still permanent, only hidden by you somewhere else, or it has become transient? Anthony This may be the fifteenth item on the 14 unsolvable questions on Buddha's list. --- On Tue, 9/11/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org <billsm...@hhs1963.org> wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org <billsm...@hhs1963.org> Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 9 November, 2010, 4:43 PM Anthony, I do indeed have a good idea on what is permanent. In fact I have a list. It changes every day. ...Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Anthony Wu Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 4:57 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas Kristy, Chuckles. It is hard to figure out a better reply. However, unfortunately all fun is transient. Maybe Bill has an idea on what is permanent. Anthony --- On Mon, 8/11/10, Kristy McClain <healthypl...@yahoo.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=healthyplay1%40yahoo.com> > wrote: From: Kristy McClain <healthypl...@yahoo.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=healthyplay1%40yahoo.com> > Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Monday, 8 November, 2010, 12:16 PM *s* Perhaps.. but it sure isn't as much fun. I'll ponder a better reply ;) Kristy --- On Sun, 11/7/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=BillSmart%40HHS1963.org> <billsm...@hhs1963.org <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=BillSmart%40HHS1963.org> > wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=BillSmart%40HHS1963.org> <billsm...@hhs1963.org <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=BillSmart%40HHS1963.org> > Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 9:11 PM Anthony and Kristy, I don't disagree with your observations below, but couldn't you say the same thing about any activity into which you put your whole being - not just sex? For example - bowling? ...Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Anthony Wu Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 4:13 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas Kristy, I understand. I am 71. When I was young, I had similar experiences, though not so often, as it depended on occassions and surroudings. Like you say, that explains why Tantrism puts so much significance on sexism, as it definitely is 'spiritual', in addition to physical. However, there are other ways. How about heroin and other drugs? They induce similar experiences. I have not tried them, but read some 'fantastic' descriptions. On the other hand, near death experiences seem to be another type. There is bliss, but does not appear to be 'mind blowing'. Anthony --- On Sun, 7/11/10, Kristy McClain <healthypl...@yahoo.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=healthyplay1%40yahoo.com> > wrote: From: Kristy McClain <healthypl...@yahoo.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=healthyplay1%40yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Sunday, 7 November, 2010, 6:44 PM Anthony, As I have neither the time nor expertise to substitute there.. let me offer a more serious thought. If you truly are asking a question about if or how sexuality intersects with spirituality, I can say that I had an experience wherein there was such a fusion of physical body and soul / heart / mind energies (however you interpret those), that it was as if space and time fell away or did not exist. There were no egos, secrets, inhibitions or thoughts. Consciousness and physicality merged. Its primal energy and primordial spirit. Animal intensity but somehow driven by a soul awareness for which there are no words. An intensity beyond measure and impossible to duplicate exactly. An intimacy so profound it felt like touching God-source (however defined). A complete acceptance of energy flow. I couldn't speak for a day. My body tingled for nearly a week. I had no desire for food and drank only small amounts of water at a time for days. Its just un-defineable. Its experential. But , for me, it left me believing in "spirit" (beit mind /heart or soul). k --- On Sat, 11/6/10, Anthony Wu <wu...@yahoo.com.sg <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wuasg%40yahoo.com.sg> > wrote: From: Anthony Wu <wu...@yahoo.com.sg <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wuasg%40yahoo.com.sg> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Saturday, November 6, 2010, 4:50 PM K and E, My local zen center just had the teacher quit. Who will apply for the job to supervise the activities in the basement? A --- On Sun, 7/11/10, Kristy McClain <healthypl...@yahoo.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=healthyplay1%40yahoo.com> > wrote: From: Kristy McClain <healthypl...@yahoo.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=healthyplay1%40yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Sunday, 7 November, 2010, 2:43 AM Good Morning Ed, I think you may be confusing femininst with fem-domme here. Its likely that Tim understands the joys of ball-clamps better than most. As for Anthony-- if pain and pleasure are the yin /yang of lust, perhaps a dungeon in the basement of his local zen center is precisely where he should begin his journey. Rainy here today. I love a rany day now and again. A day for tea and contemplation, or simply a day to stay in bed? Perhaps the net experience is the same. Be well.. k --- On Sat, 11/6/10, ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=seacrofter001%40yahoo.com> > wrote: From: ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=seacrofter001%40yahoo.com> > Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Saturday, November 6, 2010, 8:57 AM OTOH, one ball-breaking liaison with an American feminist might cure A's curiosity about Tantric sex for good! ;-) e --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <http://sg.mc761.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> , Kristy McClain <healthypl...@...> wrote: > > *chuckles* > > Well then-- I dare say that you have a homework assignment this weekend. > Please don't spare us any of the details Monday morning. > > Is it comparable with buddhism? I can offer that Bill IS correct on this > point because it truly is 'just this'! A true experience of universal > one-ness, with no need for ego, intellect or thought of any kind. I invite > you to seek your tantric tigress and let the flow of energy be your guide. > Enjoy ;) k > Kristy, > I haven't had a mind blowing experience for a long time, but I will search in > my memory to locate it. > My curiosity on Tantrism in regard to sex remains. Is it compatible with > Buddhism? > Anthony > Anthony;) > > One experience of truly mind-blowing sex can tell you this. Enjoy your > weekend...K > ......"they shed light on the relationship with lust and spiritualism. > > I am curious why Tantrism attaches so much significance to that. > > Anthony __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5597 (20101106) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com/> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5599 (20101107) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com/> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5602 (20101108) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com/> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5602 (20101108) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com/> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5602 (20101108) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com/> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5605 (20101109) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
