Bill,
 
I disagree.  It is your belief about  your experience.
 
Kristy


--- On Thu, 1/13/11, Bill! <billsm...@hhs1963.org> wrote:


From: Bill! <billsm...@hhs1963.org>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Differences Tao/Chan, which older
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 5:13 PM


  



Just THIS is not a belief, it is experience...Bill!

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@...> wrote:
>
> So is "just this".  k ;)
> 
> --- On Thu, 1/13/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Bill! <BillSmart@...>
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Differences Tao/Chan, which older
> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 4:05 AM
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> Science is a belief system...Bill!
> 
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 
> 覺妙精明 <chan.jmjm@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello TMSO,
> > 
> > I would say both are NOT believe systems.
> > 
> > From my limited understanding, Tao is a system, or school well 
> > documented. It primarily focuses on attaining immortality. I mean with 
> > herbs, exercises, etc. etc.
> > 
> > Chan is just a nick name for the entire universe for thousands of 
> > years. I was curious to its origin many years ago. I dug here and 
> > there and could not find an answer. Even Wikipedia stated, if I 
> > remember correctly, "the original of Chan can not be traced."
> > 
> > Chan did not have an official teaching order until BodhiDharma showed 
> > up. But my teacher often pointed out how incomplete are some of the 
> > Buddhist interpretation.
> > 
> > Our school is really about direct, really is direct, experience. That's 
> > all.
> > 
> > Sorry, these are my best answers. JM
> > 
> > Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
> > http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
> > http://www.heartchan.org
> > 
> > 
> > On 1/12/2011 2:57 PM, taomtnsage1 wrote:
> > >
> > > To Jue Miao Jing Ming- Could you please tell me some of the 
> > > differences between Tao and Chan. Also, which belief system developed 
> > > first. Thanks for your help...taomtnsage1@ 
> > > <mailto:help...taomtnsage1%40yahoo.com>
> > >
> > >
> >
>









      

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