Anthony, If your are Just Sitting you are not counting or following your breath. Then you are Counting Breath or Following Breath.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote: > > Bill, > > Old story. It is just the other way around. Shikan=just; taza=sitting. It is > a technique to help you count and follow the breath. > > Shikantaza is very colloquial in Chinese. It can be heard in conversation of > schoolboys. The Japanese borrowed the word and made it an addition to their > native language, just as you borrow Latin words. So they added other concepts > to shikantaza. I can also add a concept of daydreaming to shikantaza. > > Anthony > > --- On Thu, 13/1/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@...> > Subject: [Zen] Re: So what should I do? > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, 13 January, 2011, 7:07 PM > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > Ed, > > > > Yes. Counting or following the breath is not shikantaza. These are > techniques that are sometimes used to get you to shikantaza. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill - > > > > > > Counting breaths is not Shikantaza. Yes? > > > > > > Following the breath without counting is not Shikantaza. Yes? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > - ED > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sit. Sit zazen, which for me implies shikantaza - clear mind. > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
