Bill, You are saying, 'if I am Having Lunch I am not eating khao pat gung. Then I am Eating Khao Pat Gung. Thank you.
Anthony --- On Fri, 14/1/11, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bill! <[email protected]> Subject: [Zen] Re: So what should I do? To: [email protected] Date: Friday, 14 January, 2011, 8:41 AM Anthony, If your are Just Sitting you are not counting or following your breath. Then you are Counting Breath or Following Breath. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote: > > Bill, > > Old story. It is just the other way around. Shikan=just; taza=sitting. It is > a technique to help you count and follow the breath. > > Shikantaza is very colloquial in Chinese. It can be heard in conversation of > schoolboys. The Japanese borrowed the word and made it an addition to their > native language, just as you borrow Latin words. So they added other concepts > to shikantaza. I can also add a concept of daydreaming to shikantaza. > > Anthony > > --- On Thu, 13/1/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@...> > Subject: [Zen] Re: So what should I do? > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, 13 January, 2011, 7:07 PM > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > Ed, > > > > Yes. Counting or following the breath is not shikantaza. These are > techniques that are sometimes used to get you to shikantaza. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill - > > > > > > Counting breaths is not Shikantaza. Yes? > > > > > > Following the breath without counting is not Shikantaza. Yes? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > - ED > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sit. Sit zazen, which for me implies shikantaza - clear mind. > > > >
