The 'assess' part, certainly not the *others* part :)

And I'm wondering whether zen finds it questionable/inappropriate/not conducive 
to good practice/not conducive to good meditation or 
mindfulness/unskillful/likely to lead to more and more assumptive 
thoughts/likely not to lead to peace/possibly dangerous/potentially harmful to 
another, and therefore to self also/whatever word/s most covers what I'm trying 
to say.........as has been partly suggested.

In some ways I suppose that zen isn't taking a view on anything, incl. the 
rights/wrongs of assessing the mind of another, and I *get* that. Let be 
whatever is, and all that..... But is a tendency to assess the minds of others 
in any way a hindrance to practice.........hmmm......if so, would it be 
conducive to practice purposefully attempting to reduce ones tendency to do 
this.....

Rose 







--- On Sat, 1/15/11, Chris Austin-Lane <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Chris Austin-Lane <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] beginner's mind, romantic moments, etc(to Rose/list)
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 2:57 AM







 



  


    
      
      
      Is the thing you find questionable the "assess" or the "others"?  
My elliptical post earlier was just meant to say that the changes that I 
experience in sitting seem to make me more aware of the other people around me, 
and therefore I am oddly more able to see their body language and non-verbal 
stuff, without trying to.  Just by not being obsessed with myself so much.   


It is generally true of people that the non-verbal communication is more 
important than the actual words (at least for communication of the sort that 
wants to be improved).  

But, should, we don't need no stinking should.  We'll see what we see, is all I 
was saying.  There's no clear line between knowing that you are upset and 
knowing that your neighbor is upset.  


On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Rose P <[email protected]> wrote:


I think what I'm saying Chris, is *should* we be assessing (at all), if zen 
isn't really about doing so......but I want to ask this without the word 
*should*.....but don't know how to....hmm... :)





    
     

    
    


 



  






      

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