I forgot to add a couple of things. I noticed a comment made on the forum a days ago about the mind state of another, which is what prompted me to wonder how zen viewed this particular tendency that people have.... For me personally, I do feel it's a particularly negative aspect of the human condition, one that does require careful attention.
I'm reminded of something Chogyam Trungpa said, that I love, and it was: 'It isn't it'. I think that's just so simple and brilliant, on so many levels. I like thinking about those 3 words. Rose --- On Sat, 1/15/11, Chris Austin-Lane <[email protected]> wrote: From: Chris Austin-Lane <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] beginner's mind, romantic moments, etc(to Rose/list) To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 2:57 AM Is the thing you find questionable the "assess" or the "others"? My elliptical post earlier was just meant to say that the changes that I experience in sitting seem to make me more aware of the other people around me, and therefore I am oddly more able to see their body language and non-verbal stuff, without trying to. Just by not being obsessed with myself so much. It is generally true of people that the non-verbal communication is more important than the actual words (at least for communication of the sort that wants to be improved). But, should, we don't need no stinking should. We'll see what we see, is all I was saying. There's no clear line between knowing that you are upset and knowing that your neighbor is upset. On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Rose P <[email protected]> wrote: I think what I'm saying Chris, is *should* we be assessing (at all), if zen isn't really about doing so......but I want to ask this without the word *should*.....but don't know how to....hmm... :)
