Thanks Bill, What do you think of this statement..... A person who applies his or her logic to their day to day life may or may not be wise.
Brett http://www.pbase.com/brett1963 --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bill! <[email protected]> Subject: [Zen] Re: Spock? To: [email protected] Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 7:40 PM Brett, You made no mistake. You expressed your opinion. I expressed mine. Your opinion is your opinion. It can never be wrong unless you lie about what you really think. You opinions can change from day to day however, but that doesn't make your previously held opinons wrong. They're just out-of-date now. In fact they might come back around and become current again. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Brett Corbin <brettalancorbin@...> wrote: > > My mistake in the definition of this word, makes me feel not very logical. > > Brett > http://www.pbase.com/brett1963 > > --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@...> > Subject: [Zen] Re: Spock? > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 5:27 PM > > > Brett, > > I half-agree with you. > > Logic has nothing at all to do with the truth. Logic is knowing and > following fules. > > I do agree with you that wisdom is the ability to apply...although I'd say > 'apply knowlege' not 'apply truth'. > > ...Bill! > > In [email protected], Brett Corbin <brettalancorbin@> wrote: > > > > I think logic and wisdom are two different things, here is my definition... > > logic is knowing the truth, wisdom is applying it. > > > > Brett > > http://www.pbase.com/brett1963 > > > > --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Chris Austin-Lane <chris@> wrote: > > > > > > From: Chris Austin-Lane <chris@> > > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Spock? > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 9:01 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find the direction zen is leading me is not away from my feelings and > > toward logical thought, but towards an ability to thoroughly know my > > feelings without subsequently doing regrettable things. Feelings are > > inseparable from living. > > I find the idea that logic and reason can be effective goal setters to be > > oddly at odds with reality. Logic and reason are very useful servants but > > they cannot provide a context for decision making. > > When I sit, at least, I see a wild system of counter balancing impulses and > > tendencies; I can hope to respect the balance and stop cranking up the > > static, to let the systems do their jobs, but I must say making it into a > > system governed by logic and reason, not gonna happen. :-) but that is > > fine, the idea of a man governed by logic is just an (enjoyable) fantasy. > > Live long and prosper, > > --Chris > > > > On Feb 4, 2011 8:43 AM, "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Definitions: > > 'feelings' = interior sensations in humans > > 'emotions' = exterior expressions of feelings > > 'V-humans' = subset of humans comparable to Vulcans. > > > > Then, the statement for 'V-humans' corresponding to your statement below > > for Vulcans might be: > > "V-humans experience subdued feelings, and so they can with ease avoid > > emoting. (This mind-state has been achieved in the course of an extended > > period of time through meditation practices and other > > mind-training procedures.) Due to their equanimous mind-state, V-humans can > > deal more rationally with life situations." > > > > 'Just as a solid massive rock remains unshaken by the wind, so too, in face > > of blame and praise, the wise remain immovable.' --Dhammapadda Verse: > > 81 > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Dave P" <wookielifeday@> wrote: > > > > > > "Vulcans do not lack emotion. This is an all too common misconception. It > > > is merely that our emoti... > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links
