Logic isn't knowing the truth, it is various systems for combining sentences to produce new sentences that are equivalently true to the original sentences. Truth is totally independent of logic.
Logic can tell you If A, then B, but it can never tell you A. Reason is more tricky, but fortunately for me, Spock used the word logic, not reason. However, we have this Spock quote: "Computers make excellent and efficient servants, but I have no wish to serve under them. Captain, a starship also runs on loyalty to one man. And nothing can replace it or him." Pardon the sexism of the 1960s. Cheers, Chris On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Brett Corbin <[email protected]>wrote: > > > I think logic and wisdom are two different things, here is my definition... > logic is knowing the truth, wisdom is applying it. > > Brett > http://www.pbase.com/brett1963 > > --- On *Fri, 2/4/11, Chris Austin-Lane <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: Chris Austin-Lane <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Spock? > > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 9:01 AM > > > > > I find the direction zen is leading me is not away from my feelings and > toward logical thought, but towards an ability to thoroughly know my > feelings without subsequently doing regrettable things. Feelings are > inseparable from living. > I find the idea that logic and reason can be effective goal setters to be > oddly at odds with reality. Logic and reason are very useful servants but > they cannot provide a context for decision making. > When I sit, at least, I see a wild system of counter balancing impulses and > tendencies; I can hope to respect the balance and stop cranking up the > static, to let the systems do their jobs, but I must say making it into a > system governed by logic and reason, not gonna happen. :-) but that is > fine, the idea of a man governed by logic is just an (enjoyable) fantasy. > Live long and prosper, > --Chris > > On Feb 4, 2011 8:43 AM, "ED" > <[email protected]<http://us.mc1217.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> > wrote: > > > > > Definitions: > 'feelings' = interior sensations in humans > 'emotions' = exterior expressions of feelings > 'V-humans' = subset of humans comparable to Vulcans. > > Then, the statement for 'V-humans' corresponding to your statement below > for Vulcans might be: > "V-humans experience subdued feelings, and so they can with ease avoid > emoting. (This mind-state has been achieved in the course of an extended > period of time through meditation practices and other > mind-training procedures.) Due to their equanimous mind-state, V-humans can > deal more rationally with life situations." > > 'Just as a solid massive rock remains unshaken by the wind, so too, in face > of blame and praise, the wise remain immovable.' --Dhammapadda Verse: > 81 > > > > --- In > [email protected]<http://us.mc1217.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>, > "Dave P" <wookielifeday@...> wrote: > > > > "Vulcans do not lack emotion. This is an all too common misconception. It > is merely that our emoti... > > > > > > > > >
